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Hi, I Need Help On This Picture (1793 8 Reales)

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 Posted 07/12/2007  07:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there everyone, a friend of mine just sent me a picture of this marvelous Spanish coin thru email and I'm hoping to see more of this coinage. My friend forgot to add what website he found it and I'm getting impatient since he has not emailed me yet. has anybody seen this picture from a website? please do tell thanks!

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 Posted 07/12/2007  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry...can't help you. Cool coin, however.
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 Posted 07/12/2007  10:36 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Swamperbob should be around shortly to give you some info and verify it's authenticity.
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 Posted 07/12/2007  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try a Google search for the original filename of that picture.
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 Posted 07/12/2007  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's from an ebay auction, look at the bottom right.
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Thanks guys, though I haven't found the website yet but am still searching. tried looking at it at ebay.com yet there is no picture similar to the one am looking.
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 Posted 07/13/2007  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, I don't believe this coin is real. Where the F is to the left of the shield, I believe that should have an M above it. I can't find a coin in Krause that matches this one.

I am going to move this topic to the World Coins section and add 1793 8 Reales to the title so that Swamperbob will see it.
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 Posted 07/13/2007  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not familiar with "Pillars", but this one looks like one of two things:

1. Salt-water corrosion, usually associated with sea-salvaged coins.

or

2. Cast counterfeit, using a real coin as template for the mold.

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 Posted 07/16/2007  05:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmmm....a MX mintmark? seems unusual. is it minted in Madrid?
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Um, the date on that coin is 1733. It's not from "Old Spain" - the Spanish mints never issued the Pillar Dollar design.

The 1700's Krause has a listing under Mexico for the 1733 F (MX) mintmark combination: "Rare... sale 7-96 [of a VF example] realised $11,710".

If it's claiming to be genuine, it had better have a five-figure pricetag and a darned good provenance.
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The coin pictured is a 1733 MX F 8 Reales minted by Spain at their Mexico City mint. It is a sea salvaged example, most of that date show signs of salvage since the entire 1733 treasure fleet was sunk in a hurricane off the Florida Keys. Hard to tell from that photo what the surfaces really look like but on the site columnarios.com there is a photo of a really well curated 1733Mx in the catalogue section. It shows perfect surfaces where there is no corrosion, that particular coin was found in a clump of pillars and only has damage from sea water along the outside edges of the coin, once the clump corroded over the inside coins were protected from damage. 1733MX F, along with the even rarer 1733 MX MF are 2 of the keys to the entire mexican 8 reale series.
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