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My First Attempt At 'Dipping' A Coin.....kennedy SMS

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The proof of the outcome will be much later as the metal reacts to the cleaning agent over time.
Give it a few weeks and see what happens -


Very important point. I tried the dip thing on an not so attractive common date Morgan dollar with the same agent a while back. Looked great....and then things got ugly.

If I can find it I will post a pic....no before pic, just the after after
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If it reacts over time, you overdipped it in the first place and didn't rinse sufficiently. If you get the acid off the coin to begin with, nothing happens from there. But you have to rinse the snot out of the coin. That's the mistake most make - you can't just swish the coin in a bowl of water. It needs pressure, for half a minute or so on each face. And then acetone immediately, to rinse off any deposits from the water (another possible cause for long-term effect).

This is why I don't talk about the process much here. It's an extreme case, and you can use it successfully for the right coin, but the technique is exacting and the risk is real if you haven't owned the coin since it came from the Mint.

The longest I ever dipped a coin was ten seconds total. 2 five second dips. Absolutely destroyed it. It'll never have luster again.
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Found the little beast...I had to angle the coin so that you could actually make out the Morgan details. In hand it actually looks worse. Remember...this beauty was a pristine silver prize after the dip....rinsed in distilled water after dip

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You dipped the Morgan in Tarn-X or what, exactly?
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E.Z.Est... Maybe a max 4-5 second dip around 2 years ago
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In the end.. Its all about the owner of the coin.they will always have there intrinsic value and if something is numismatic in nature they perhaps had better know the ins and outs. I love War Nickels and quite honestly they are gross usually soaked in ashtray gunk and cupholder goo..I soak give those ones a dip and make em less slimy.. And save them for some junk silver sell off.. They are just fun to have in my opinion. I have yet to dip something amazing all my keeper proofs go into a snap lock some go into flips and some reside in the original mint packaging..just my opinion. And if someone wanted something I had "dipped" I would tell them. On the other side of the extreme there is a LCS the guy runs all of his junk silver through a brass cleaner walnut media...those coins are chrome in appearance and completely devalued to junk silver price.. Any possible numismatic value is destroyed.. Still bears its intrinsic value in the end a coin is only worth what the buyer will pay...and a collector is a collector!
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Fox woods wow!! That is a incredible reaction!! I will do a before after with a War Nickel the put it in a flip and let rest for xx:xx time and try and duplicate that.. Thats incredible I've never seen a coin that looked like that before..perhaps I will buy a morgan outta the bargain box at the LCS and try that.. My War Nickels none of them exhibt that appearance
Edit: upon closer inspection....the ez est was removing the toning and on the back of it says will remove toning I bet if you dipped it more and removed all the toning it would appear all white.. Just my opinion and I am by no means a chemist but thats what I take from you morgan images
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Edit: upon closer inspection....the ez est was removing the toning and on the back of it says will remove toning I bet if you dipped it more and removed all the toning it would appear all white..


It DID remove all the stuff that was on the coin...and it was a great looking coin ("white") after dip.
This is a pic 2 years AFTER the dip....worse than before the dip
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Am I the only one who thinks this process is a mistake and we should just leave the coin in its natural state? Why are you dipping these coins anyways? just to experiment or resell them to someone else who doesn't know they were cleaned?


I am not planning on selling at all. I want to see the beauty of the coin and if it has gunk on it and I can remove it without damage then great. I knew acetone did not hurt a coin and from my brief experiment here, as long as I am careful this does not either.


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The proof of the outcome will be much later as the metal reacts to the cleaning agent over time.
Give it a few weeks and see what happens -



That is what the acetone does...there is no cleaning agent left....at least that is my understanding.



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Careful .........

I have bought gnarley coins before, if the value is gone anyway, might as well make them nice to look at. Not everyone has resale dollar signs in their eyes every time they buy a coin, some of us just collect for the fun, history and beauty.


Precisely I am not selling these and looking at them I do not think it hurt in any way. As someone has stated there is a restoration/preservation company out there that does this. If they charge $15 per coin, the coins I have done are not worth that. The point is, after the gunk is off, they look great and that was the purpose.

I can not remember the last time I sold a coin...must have been 15 years old or something.



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I am one of those who collects for fun, history and beauty. I understand these are his coins and can do what he wants....but the dipping destroys all the fun, history and beauty about these coins.....kinda gives them a "new look".


How can it destroy the coin? If you have some kind of smear, fingerprint, dirt or whatever on it and you want it gone without damage and that is the key, what can you do. I do not think I have damaged the coin in any way...these were not circulated coins, they were mint state with gunk on them. Now they just look mint state. I understand the reservations of some and I have no issue with it. For me, I like to look at them and I want them to be nice. This is a way to do just that. If it ruins the resale value of a $10 coin, so what I am not selling them.


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E.Z.Est... Maybe a max 4-5 second dip around 2 years ago


Well I was worried about that but the acetone should have cleaned any residue off of it. I dipped way longer in the acetone as it hurts nothing..I think.




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It DID remove all the stuff that was on the coin...and it was a great looking coin ("white") after dip.
This is a pic 2 years AFTER the dip....worse than before the dip


Yuk, but you said you rinsed with distilled water. I wonder if acetone was used if you would have had the same reaction?


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ok just dipped some nicks and in comparison to a BU 42 nick NOTE: I never dip a coin that is numismatically valuable I only do this to coins I cannot find anything more than melt(junk)value..and I happen to love War Nickels and collect them just because the time in our country and the amazing generation and time these coins represent....im off topic heres the three coins NOTE center coin is not dipped its a collector piece

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Foxwoods I did incorrectly mis read your post..curious from dip til now how was the coin stored? Did any others tone? That were stored like the Morgan?
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I dipped 2 coins...the ugly Morgan and an ASE. Both stored in Mylar flips so not air tight. The ASE did not tone at all.
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I am stumped..we need a metallurgist!
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I have checked on mine and see no issues but it has only been a couple of months as of yet..
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I set some aside as well..still no change..
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