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Hello all, this gold medal presented to Daniel Morgan has been passed down through my family to my father and we are now considering selling. I will post some of the history behind it and more pictures when I can get to a pc but wanted to see if anyone has any clue what it may be worth or the best way to go about selling it. Thanks  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 I'm sure someone will be able to assist you...this is out of my realm of knowledge. -MV |
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This could be a really interesting piece.
May I suggest that you post the size and weight also?
Thanks,
Bill
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New Member
United States
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I can't recall the exact weight but I did have it on the scale the other day think it was about 99.6 grams   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Here's a link to some information from the ANA. Unfortunately no pictures. A brief search on Google pulled this up, along with the info that cast copies were made at some point from the original dies. Hopefully someone with more info will be able to identify yours. http://numismatics.org/search/resul...%20Daniel%22 |
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Pillar of the Community
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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United States
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Any suggestions as to what it could be worth or best way to go about selling?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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mcgowan: Did you read the Coin World article? If this is indeed the unaccounted for medal that was handed to Daniel Morgan, and it can be proven to be so, it is a very interesting piece. It is a shame that your family is in a position where you need to part with it, but many have fallen on tough times. I know little about these types of medals, but based off what you are saying this is a unique medallion. And I am not misusing the word unique like so many others sometimes do on this forum. (I have thought about asking to have it added to the bad words filter :-) ). There are many collectors of this type of stuff, and given a highly visible and reputable auction, who can say what a piece like this would go for? After all, this will be the first time the original ever came up for sale. That being said, don't clean it in any way, don't rub the surfaces, don't try to polish it, etc. I can see it has been dinged up quite a bit, you need to keep it in a safe container so it doesn't get bumped around or damage any further. Gold is a very soft metal. You will need to prove providence and get it authenticated to get the top dollar out of it. There are people on the forum who deal with potentially high value stuff like this and can give you better answers. |
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I would definitely have it accurately weighed as soon as you can and report back.
My references indicate that a gold Daniel Morgan medal should weigh 148.99 grams. If yours weighs about 99 grams, it would seem to be quite a bit lighter than expected.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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United States
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This medal appears to be a medal struck circa 1839 and presented to Morgan Neville, grandson of Daniel Morgan. It was struck to replace the original gold Morgan medal which was stolen in a bank robbery in Pittsburgh in the early 19th century. The medal was last reported in the 1880's when it was displayed by the family in Saratoga, NY.
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United States
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I have changed my settings to allow e-mail to be sent to me. Please contact me and I will give you more information about the medal, and tell you how to determine if it is gold, and whether it is the original struck in 1789 or the later 1839 Barré copy. I also can connect you with the top collector of this series who is a close friend of mine. If gold, whether the earlier or later medal, this is a very important and valuable medal, worth tens of thousands of dollars...Do not get tricked into selling it by someone trying to cherry pick you. I know a lot about these medals - and to give you insight into who I am check out the attached image of Washington's gold medal. I am a researcher and one of the very few people who have had access to Washington's medal - look on the internet to see if you can find another image of it. Not likely as it is hidden away in a vault and never displayed for the public.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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kanaka, can you also post a picture of the reverse of Washington's gold medal?
And you're right. When I first learned about that very interesting medal I went in search of pictures. All that I found were some small useless ones. Your picture is the best I have ever seen of the medal. I would be very grateful to see your picture of the reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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With a medal like this I would contact Presidential Coin and Antique Company, Joe Levine. I can't post a link here but he is easy to find on google. This firm has been around for 40+ years, I have dealt with them occasionally and have never heard any complaints about them.
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Forum Dad
United States
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Please contact me and I will give you more information about the medal, and tell you how to determine if it is gold, and whether it is the original struck in 1789 or the later 1839 Barré copy. Why not share with the group, we're not here to keep secrets.  |
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New Member
United States
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Here is the reverse of the gold Washington medal; as you can see it has been polished extensively:  I was not trying to be cryptic or secretive, it is mostly laziness since the original and Barré copies are difficult to distinguish, and I want to go through all of that explaining only if the OP is still here-which apparently they are not. My honest opinion is that the medal is gilt-gopper; Struck at the US Mint with the Barré dies - based primarily on the thick, flat edges. |
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