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Should I Slab This Coin.

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Is this coin worth sending to say Anacs to be slabbed? Is the 1870 shallow N a variety ?

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 Posted 02/14/2014  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure on the variety part but I'd say the coin is worth slabbing.
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It appears there may be partial damage at the ear...which could explain the wear on the N.
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I would have to know,the reason you might want it slabbed?

- just because you like slabs
- so you know if it is authentic
- to increase it value for selling

For me it is hard to grade from a picture. My guess would be VG+ to Fine.
I like to look at greysheet for a starting point on value.

For this coin VG is $95/$105 and fine is $180/$195.

Understand that a dealer might pay 50 to 65 percent of this price.
And would deduct for any problems.

Also I am thinking the coin may have been cleaned and has some small
damage in the ear area. I feel these could bring the price down.

Of course this is just my opinion
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here are some better pictures I hope. there is no damage to the ear and doesn't looked cleaned to me. the reason I want to possibly slab it is its value. I dont plan on selling it but keeping it.just thought someone here could tell me if the coin looks worth the time money and effort to slab. thanks for everyone here with comments they do help again thank you all

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Sure would look pretty in an album.
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Both shallow N and bold N reverse dies were used in 1870. Your coin appears to be a shallow N. According to Snow, the shallow N is slightly scarcer than the bold N but does not carry a premium.

The design change on the reverse and the reworking of the dies has resulted in many varieties for this date, most of them minor. You would need much closer pictures of the obverse and reverse to determine any variety.

Your coin would probably grade around F-12. The 1870 IHC is tough to find in higher circulated grades. Personally, though if you have no intention of selling the coin, why spend the money to get it slabbed.
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As a general rule,
To justify the cost of slabbing, the potential value of the itself should provide most of the motivation to proceed.
First, you must grade the coin for yourself, or ask us to grade it for you. For most of us with lower value coins, that is plenty enough, and the cost of slabbing is avoided.

If the coin has a significant potential value in your mind, a more accurate value can be assessed that could be based on a catalogue value , which would be dependent on an opinion of condition by recognized TPG.

Another consideration is if you wish to sell it. As most of us here in the CCF are collectors not traders, there is less motivation across the membership as a whole to have coins assessed by a TPG.

It is a good thing if you feel confident enough to accurately grade for yourself. The CCF is an excellent forum to increase your skills in this area.

You post 'em, we have fun grading 'em!
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I just had some slabs done, and let me tell you why - primarily, I intend to sell the coins.

Secondly, there is such a big difference in values between what are some times very small details. Eg. I had five of a specific coin I knew to be about MS-65 or so (a value of about $30), one just came back today at MS-66 and now I know it can command a price well over $350. I would say that was worth the investment. All in all, the 18 or so coins I sent out to get slabbed should, realistically, net in the realm of $1k. Coins cost about $200, grading/slabbing about $200, I take home more than I would have had I not had them graded.

Sometimes you get the premiums by research alone, sometimes by spotting just the right variety or error (many of which should be verified by a TPG if a large premium is involved), and other times by receiving a grade that can only be recognized when given by a reputable TPG.
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The coin looks much better in the new pictures.

Not sure how much you have in the coin, but I would put that coin into my.... To be slabbed pile.

I agree ... Seeing the new pics ... I see no problem with the ear
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Thank you all I paid $136 for it probably to much huh? What do the more seasoned collectors here grade it? Lol I'm one who was in the hobby long ago had nice slabbed IHC and a divorce after 22 years wiped them out. Lost interest now I feel like a beginner again Thanks everybody.
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GR58's reply is what I'd say too.
Not really worth slabbing and sure would look nice in my Albums.
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It found a home in my circulated collection. I need a 09s and that's it to complete the set. Will send pics later. Take care people.
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