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I am still new at this so I am probably doing some basic thing wrong. My silver coins are appearing gold or at least gold tinted in my pictures. Any ideas what I may be doing wrong?


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Is the pictures appearing gold ... but looking less gold in your eyes?

What is your eyes SEEING?

Camera pictures can make anything go goofy in shades, hue, tone, tint.
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get better lights or play with the Free Image Optimizer
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This is the same image with Exposure at 50 and Colour saturation at -50
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The coin is very silver. That corrected image look much closer to the proper tone. I will see if I can adjust my exposure and find how to do color saturation.

thanks

(I will see what I can find on lighting too)
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The Exposure and Saturation are both in the Free Image Optimizer at the bottom of the Reply to topic window. You might be able to set your camera to a different exposure but just using the software is easier IMHO.

Also light might seem White to a human eye but to a camera it's usually a bit yellow. My basic idea on light is the more the better.
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It's the White Balance setting on your camera. Cameras need to be "told" what kind of light is in use - daylight, incandescent, fluorescent, etc. Your images look like you're using incandescent lighting on the wrong White Balance setting. Your camera should have an "Auto" setting among the choices - give that a shot first.

What camera is it?
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It is a canon power shot sx160is.
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I would assume most of that has to do with the saturation setting. Good luck
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It is a canon power shot sx160is.


Time to hit up your manual. Try the Auto white balance setting first, then possibly "Tungsten" which is the setting for incandescent lighting. Canon is notorious for Tungsten being a little off, though. In a pinch, your camera also has a "Custom" setting. What happens there is, you take a shot of a blank white or grey sheet under the same lighting as you're shooting coins, and essentially "tell" the camera that's the light. It then corrects perfectly for it.

Use a monochromatic, detail-less background and make your goal to be getting the color of that background correct. The coin will then be correct, keeping in mind that it may not necessarily be exactly what you see in-hand unless you look at the coin under the exact same lighting you use to shoot it.

There is no need to adjust color in postprocessing with this camera. It's capable of getting it right in-camera.
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As others have said there are two ways to correct your problem:
-- lighting that's closer to "natural"
-- adjust your "white balance"

Actually a combination of both will produce the best results.
Lighting is probably the toughest to get adjusted properly.
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I will work on both. I like the led light that I have seen mentioned from ikea. Just wish one was close by.

I did change the white balance to auto adjust and it helped.
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The nature of the lighting is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the lighting is, the camera requires a white balance correction. Cameras don't know "natural."
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The nature of the lighting is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the lighting is, the camera requires a white balance correction. Cameras don't know "natural."


I am not familiar with your camera but I find custom white balance seems to fix all such problems. I suspect your camera may not allow for custom white balance. I get a similar gold color when I use compact florescent bulbs for lighting. As already stated its fixed by adjusting the white balance.

If your camera does allow you to customize the white balance invest in an 18% grey card at $20.00 it will make a huge difference to your coin photography.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...y_Cards.html
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Yes, his camera can do a Custom white balance. That makes candles, red heat lamps and probably ultraviolet lights fair game for his needs.
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The nature of the lighting is completely irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the lighting is, the camera requires a white balance correction. Cameras don't know "natural."


But the human eye does, and you want your image to look as close to what you see "in hand" as reasonable possible.
And a good starting point is to select a light source that closely mimics "natural" light.
THEN "white balance" can more easily correct the image to something close to what the eye sees.
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THEN "white balance" can more easily correct the image to something close to what the eye sees.


No. The correction is not "easier" regardless of the light source.

I am really getting frustrated with you guys pushing this member to spend money on new equipment, or time to learn new technique, which he doesn't need to.
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