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I was in a coin shop today. I guy was selling coins and he also had the Civil War ID tag (I hope) No one knew for sure if it was real. so he put it back in his bag. For some reason I took a chance and made him a offer and he accepted. I hate making buys like this, when I don't know the value or if it is real. So I am hoping some member here might have some knowledge.    Here is a link of online images that has one that looks the same, after buying this I was looking at some at the coin shop and the same search showed four of this same design. https://images.search.yahoo.com/sea...dog+tagThe link does not seem to work -- Link fixed - Jbuck. Here is a pic from the yahoo search link.  At the coin shop, also did a search and found a list of Ohio VOl. soldiers. It did show a A. Winters, but can't find the link here at home. Other reading mentioned that the suttlers that sold these to the soldiers sometimes used coins .. could this be some sort of Washington token .. made into a ID tage? Thanks in advance for any information .. good or bad Edited by GR58
02/18/2014 2:52 pm
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82nd Ohio Infantry, mustered in December 1861. Fought at Second Bull Run, Chancellorsville and Gettysburg where its' original strength ("prototype" regiments were 10 Companies of 100 men each, typical wartime regiments were 300-400 men) was reduced to just 92 men. They left the field with their colors intact.
Transferred west after rebuilding, and ended the war joining Sherman for the March to the Sea, and were on-hand for Johnson's surrender at Bennett Place.
The token is Baker 214, designed and struck by Joseph H. Merriam of Boston. It was originally designed to have a reverse depicting Edward Everett, a prominent Massachusetts politician, but the obverse is known to have been struck for Civil War ID tags as well.
It's almost certainly real.
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Thanks SuperDdave
I was hoping to hear that type of information.
I gave $100.00 for it ... I hope that was a good amount
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I've no clue about its' true value, and I'd drop that number on one in a heartbeat.
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 Everything about the surfaces and lettering looks like the 1860s  |
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Amazing find. |
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Sooooooo cool! Great find.... no idea really but a c-note seems reasonable....
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Did a little digging. Adam Winters enlisted on 9 December 1861 at the age of 19, and was transferred to the Veteran Reserve Corps on 1 August 1863. The Veteran Reserve Corps, at this time, was composed of soldiers who had become unfit for normal combat due to injury or illness which did not warrant immediate discharge. In this case, given the timing, it seems likely that Winters received injuries at Gettysburg, a month prior to his transfer. The implication is that he survived the war and likely kept this tag in his possession, postwar.
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Nice find and great info from SsuperDdave.
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Thanks again SuperDdave ... Always good to have more information. I too think this tag is very interesting. There are two or three people asking to buy this .. But I am not sure I want to sell it. Some how I find it very interesting to know that a civil war soldier carried it through a couple of important battles. Like a direct connection to history. |
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Like a direct connection to history. That's because it is a direct connection to history. |
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ID disks like this tend to sell in the $500-$600 range. That said, if seen by bidders who have some special interest in the regiment, soldier or even Washingtonia, the price could well exceed the generalized estimate I gave. The Lincoln disks tend to be the most popular, and I recently parted company with one in the Hayden sale.
As a point of interest, one can pay a modest fee to the National Archives to secure copies of the specific soldier's records.
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Wow, that's some impressive research!
Nice find on the token as well!
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Thanks for the kind words, CLS12 and welcome to the CCF!
With some due diligence, one can assemble many interesting details related to the old tokens and medals. I used to travel and visit libraries, but the ever-evolving internet has saved me a lot of gas!
Of note on the ID disk, both the service record and the pension record can be purchased.
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