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New Member
United States
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I came across this on ebay the other day and something just didn't seem right. It seemed like the lettering was too fat/thick especially in the word "PLURBIS" on the obverse and the first "A" in "AMERICA" looks like it's touching the wing on the reverse. Also the data looks a bit thick to me. I just started collecting a few weeks ago, but this listing raised all sorts of flags for me. Can anyone confirm my suspicions or am I wrong in what I am looking at?   The listing has ended, but here's the link while it's still active: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1885-Morgan...171248557618 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2543 Posts |
 to the community Mike It looks alright to me. As the coin wears, the script get worn and seems flatter and fatter. I see no immediate warning signs. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
5417 Posts |
to CCF! And yeah, looks real to me. You should weight it and per from the magnet test to be sure. |
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New Member
 United States
11 Posts |
I didn't end up purchasing it myself because I looked fishy to me.
Thanks though ;)
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Moderator
 United States
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For me, this one falls somewhere in the range of "not a chance it's real." There's so much wrong with it that I wouldn't know where to start describing the problems. The area around RIB is enough to make me walk away immediately, and that's just a start. Yes, letters and devices tend to flatten out and appear larger as the coin wears, but that does not affect what should be appropriate spacing between them. That does not lessen with wear, and I can't find many spaces on this coin which are as large as they ought to be.
The images are small, and I concede a remote possibility that it's real, but I wouldn't risk money on it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6130 Posts |
Who would fake a common date Morgan though? Even with the apparent problems, this looks like it's at least made out of silver and is a pretty good copy if the community here can't say 100% if it's fake or not. I just don't see the economic feasibility of faking a common date Morgan in VG/F.
Either way, there is no way I'd pay $30 for that coin, even if it was genuine.
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United States
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I just don't see the economic feasibility of faking a common date Morgan in VG/F. They cost you next to nothing, get very little scrutiny because "who fakes a common date Morgan?" and represent $24 profit on every $25 sold. They're more common than Key fakes, and your own post proves the viability. Nobody suspects them. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2543 Posts |
I agree with all the points that bring Ddave's suspicions out. but , like Finn, when I look at things like this, I also consider why ? Okay, it might have red flags, but why on earth would someone go to all the trouble and risk over a common date coin, in VF condition. But I do know one thing, if Ddave says he wouldn't touch it, I,m not getting near it  |
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United States
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It's simple. Wider margin of profit in the long term with an unsuspecting collector base.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36800 Posts |
It's a fake. It is also much easier to pass a fake 1885-P Morgan than and 1885-S or CC. Who looks close at a common date? Non coin people get taken by this trick all the time.
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Valued Member
United States
243 Posts |
At the moment I'm with Dave and saying it is fake.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2543 Posts |
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It's a fake. It can't be fake, fake coins are not allowed on ebay. |
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Valued Member
United States
113 Posts |
Definitely one I would want to check out in hand before buying.. just doesn't look right.
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
There's no doubt in my mind. It's a cast fake from china. There was a seller on ebay that I came across a while back that was selling fake Morgans like this one and a lot of classic commemorative halves. They have been shut down for quite some time now, at least under the seller's name at that time. I still check about once a week to see if there is any activity. |
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Valued Member
United States
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Edited by JRG
02/25/2014 3:49 pm
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United States
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Quote:It can't be fake, fake coins are not allowed on ebay.  |
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Posted 02/25/2014 12:47 pm
