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Slabbed NGC Gold Eagle.

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 Posted 02/25/2014  2:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jimfire to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just received an ngc graded $50 gold eagle. There is obvious tampering on all four sides of case as though someone tried to pry it open with a knife. 1 corner also shows some pry marks. Could this be just an attempt to open or could it have been successful without breaking the case? The coin looks good but I don't want to end up with a counterfeit. What my main question is would it be possible to pry open these cases and switch out the coin.
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 Posted 02/25/2014  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, jimfire. I've taken the liberty of moving this topic to a forum where it will find a more appropriate audience. To answer your specific question, no, it's not particularly possible to open a slab and insert another coin without destroying it. I won't say "never," but not without sophisticated power cutting equipment and the result would still be easily visible to an informed observer.
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 Posted 02/25/2014  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For an ngc slab they would have either needed to slide that entire white part out to swap the coin or bent the plastic face enough to gain access to the coin. Since the slab is hard plastic its pretty face to run out bending so any slits would have to be big enough to remove the white part. Basically the bottom edge of the slab would have to be missing.

I agree its highly unlikely they could have done so, however it doesn't sound like something that would be hard to find a replacement. Send it back and get one without a damaged slab. That damage would make it much harder to sell in the future if you wanted/needed too.
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 Posted 02/25/2014  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jimfire, can you post a picture?
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 Posted 02/25/2014  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

At a coin show a dealer I know well showed me a slab that he had opened and changed the coin inside. He made it obvious by placing a Dime in a Cent slab. How he did it, don't know but if he could do it, possibly many others have done so. There are so many slabs out there and no one really knows which are what. However, if yours has thouse marks, I'd suspect opening was a failure. Maybe.
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I'd love to see some pics of this too. Mostly because I want to see the coin... droool... but also to see the marks in question. Welcome by the way!

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Yea I agree with the other guys here...I dont think someone tried to tamper with it,, more my guess is its been handled rough or nicked around ... and heres why

I have a slab I bought recently of a coin,,, it fell off my desk, banged off the edge, hit my hard carpet cover for my chair. I picked it up, to my disappointment, the edges on one side got nicked really bad, in fact one side looks like a sharp object was used to separate the mold... so bottom line, I think the edges are very "soft" and theres a good chance perhaps it was dinged or dropped and that accounts for what looks like tampering.

hope that helps and congrats on getting a graded gold eagle, I like those coins.
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in fact one side looks like a sharp object was used to separate the mold... so bottom line, I think the edges are very "soft"


Could be a result of the sealing process but I believe the edges are designed to fracture when tampered with to make sure you cant put it back together
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