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How About UK County 50p Coins Like USA Stetehood Quarter Set

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I enjoyed collecting the USA Statehood Quarter series whilst on holiday in America and see they have now started a National Park series.
Made me think how great it would be for the UK to have County 50p's : Cheshire ; Lancashire ; Derbyshire etc etc. Released say 1/2 dozern a year for the nest few years.
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Interesting idea! Not sure how UK people are into modern coin collecting.
I'm sure some of the UK and others from CCF will chime in.
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This idea kind of reminds me of how TV shows start in Britain and get exported to the states.

the whole idea actually started in Canada, with their Province commemorative issues, or was that the commemorative half dollars from the US for State Centennials?

Any way not a bad idea but how long would it take, how many Counties are there in the UK?

You could do a sub-set of the ones with people on them: "Worst Teeth on Coins" set

Side note about TV shows, after the major success of Friends in the US the BBC got the rights for it and called it Coupling. Friends out lasted Coupling by a few years and as it was coming to an end NBC (the company that originally made Friends) bought back the idea of Coupling and tried to make a US series also called Coupling... it only lasted a few episodes. It's interesting how the same ideas just get tossed back and forth all the time.
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Yeah, on paper this sounds like a great idea . It would be really interesting .... I can just imagine something like the design for Somerset -apple orchards and cider Devon & Cornwall- Devon custard with scones topped with clotted cream .....Liberty have you suggested this to The Royal Mint its quite a good idea in principle.


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You could do a sub-set of the ones with people on them: "Worst Teeth on Coins" set


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In a sense Britain already does something like this, with the pound coinages featuring different designs for each component-country of Great Britain: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. They've been doing it since 1983, which is older than the Canadian province coins you mentioned earlier.

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How many Counties are there in the UK?

Lots. England is divided into 48 ceremonial counties and 82 local government counties. Then there's Scotland with its 33 shires, Wales with 13 historic counties and six more historic counties in Northern Ireland. Since local government reforms in 1975, the old Welsh and Irish counties no longer have any actual governmental function, they are now just historic and geographic terms. But if you were to use simply the "historic" or "ceremonial" counties/shires from each of the four countries, then that's exactly 100 coins needed to cover the whole of Britain. Then they could also do what America did and throw in an extra 16 coins for the dependencies and territories, although most of these already have their own coinages.

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...the whole idea actually started in Canada, with their Province commemorative issues, or was that the commemorative half dollars from the US for State Centennials?

If you don't count the British pounds, it was the Canadians that started the modern trend in one-from-each-region coinage series. But if you want to know the very first country to come up with the idea, the Roman Empire under Hadrian issued a series of denarii for various provinces in the Empire, issued to commemorate the imperial visit during his grand tour of every province; the imperial party took a "travelling mint" with them specifically to strike such coinage. Here's the denarius for Spain, Here's the denarius for Egypt and so forth. Unfortunately, some provinces only rated bronze coinage instead, so you can only collect about half of the actual provinces in the Empire at the time.
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I was going to make a joke about the "Romans probably started it", wish I had now

And I always thought having a traveling mint to make the coins in the state they are meant for would be a great idea.

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The first modern regional commemorative series was from Jersey, I think: one pound coin for each parish of the little island. They have very low mintages (not above 100,000 and in some cases going down to 10,000, but catalog price is really low).

I would like to see the 10p coin used for this set, so that I can afford it!! Having to sock away 50 pounds would be a bit much for me
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Interesting idea! Not sure how UK people are into modern coin collecting.


My general impression is that there are quite a few people who pick up coins from change. The Olympic 50ps seemed popular, particularly with the sale of cases you could put the completed set into.

But mostly the money (ie collectors who buy coins) is in pre-decimal coinage.

While there are people who buy decimal commemoratives I'm not sure it's gained the popularity of collecting older coinage.

If a move like this would encourage new collectors (particularly kids) into the hobby it would be good. But generally it's an old(er) bloke's hobby it seems. And I've yet to see much sign that all the issues from the RM have done much to change that.

Of course, being an old(er) bloke myself, perhaps I'm biased?

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Japan is even into this with the Prefecture series. So, why not the U. K.?
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I've noticed a lot of British coin collectors like pre-decimal, for me it doesn't hold much interest, don't know why, but then I didn't get into coin collecting because of my own currency in the UK, but from foreign currency. Maybe people like myself who never lived under pre-decimal coins, they don't mean much.
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I suspect, as Sap says, the 4 nations £1 series that are produced fulfill this "need" for diversity. It would be interesting to have a 100 coins series though. Lots of scope for competitions for the best design, that sort of thing.
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"generally it's an old(er) bloke's hobby" I'm not even 16 and I've been collecting on and off since I was 10.
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There might be this £1 coin competition, this could be a county thing. Say each country gets a county every year or something. Maybe I'll do something like that if the competition exists.
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I think the constant changing of reverse designs on the £1 coins has made forgery (and the passing off of lower-value foreign coins like Sri Lankan 5 Rupees) much easier - there are so many different £1 coins in circulation that people assume that a foreign or odd-looking one is just yet another UK design. On the other hand, County 10p coins - now, that would be great!





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