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1914 China Dollar - Fake?

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 Posted 03/04/2014  01:25 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Everyone,

I purchased this china dollar, it looked legit to me but I am no expert. I was wondering people's thoghts on the authenticity of this coin?

1914-China-Dollar---Fake?

1914-China-Dollar---Fake?

Thanks!
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 Posted 03/04/2014  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the history of these, some easy tests


Powerful magnet test
Does it stick? Does it slide off very slow? or fast?

What is its weight?


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 Posted 03/04/2014  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on details alone it looks fine, but I am concerned with the surface. It looks too clean and too dull grayish, though that could just be the photos.
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 Posted 03/04/2014  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll do a weight test/magnet test. The surfaces look altered (was my concern as well). I believe it was probably dipped at some point in its life - I'll take some clearer photos once I remove it from the 2x2.
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 Posted 03/04/2014  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsaus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From looking at the pictures, it does look real BUT I am always concerned with anything that comes out of china. Coin has rim nicks and a couple of scratches that I can see and it does look like it has been dipped. Lettering and detail look sharp, how did the weight and magnet test go?
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 Posted 03/04/2014  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The results are in:

Weight: 26.57g
Magnet test: Moved somewhat slowly over the surface - it doesn't stick to it (rare-earth magnet)
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 Posted 03/04/2014  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sounds good.

And, given the pricetag at bottom left, I'm assuming you bought it from a dealer, rather than a little old lady at the flea market. That's two plusses so far.

A nice closeup of the edge might be of use as well.
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 Posted 03/04/2014  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies, I did believe it was the real McCoy. Further pictures:


1914-China-Dollar---Fake?

1914-China-Dollar---Fake?

1914-China-Dollar---Fake?
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 Posted 03/04/2014  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is ok but it's definitely cleaned at one stage.
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 Posted 03/05/2014  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't be so sure, notice these two areas:
1914-China-Dollar---Fake?

The first circle, that little blob should be nearly touching the cross bar, which is too short on your coin.
The second circle, that A looking thing is written all wrong.

I haven't seen either of these anomalies on a single genuine example. Also, something about the sharpness and quality of the wreath and ribbons looks off.
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 Posted 03/05/2014  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting point, could it be #27:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index....topic=4460.0 ?
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 Posted 03/05/2014  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a pretty good match, yes. Oddly enough I think my photo got deleted, not by me though.
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 Posted 03/05/2014  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely fake!
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 Posted 03/05/2014  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why not the Tibetan 1950"s re strike # 27 ? cleaned harshly!
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 Posted 03/05/2014  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneDollarMule to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I agree, looks like a re-strike #27 after looking at that link. In many ways its more interesting than the regular 1914 dollar!
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