Could This Be A Doubled Die Obverse? How Would You Grade?

Do you guys all know each other and only comment on coins you post or coins your friends post? Do I have to kiss someone's butt or pay something for an opinion? Am I asking stupid questions or something, or are they not in the right format? Or, are the coins I'm posting about just plain old dumb circulated coins with little value, hence,no replies. Jeez man. I posted another time, waited for a reply, nothing, and after 11 1/2 days I asked some more questions and a guy calling himself "newhobby" implies I have a bad attitude, but all I'm doing is asking questions and getting no replies. Aside from curiosity and enthusiasm what am I supposed to display up here? Should I be asking these questions and putting little smiley faces and emoticons to show I'm happy and not annoyed with being ignored? Is everyone on here a supporting member or are there other new folks who just join without subscribing? Do I need to subscribe to the forum to get answers? What is the case? Let me know. I don't know, which is why I'm asking and posting.

Ohhh, wait a second: are you folks on here just ebay coin people? If that's the case, I understand, sorry for asking questions.

Hi...

I don't sell on ebay... but I do have some knowledge of Morgans. (By the way, just for your future piece of mind, sometimes it takes a while for someone who does know to spot a specific question. 99.9% of the folks on here are super helpful, patient and proactive. Moving on...).

I personally can't tell too well. But many Morgans are attributed differently based on what are called 'VAMS'. Many have clashed dies, double dies, and other various 'errors' making up the various die pairings from all the mints which made Morgans from 1878-1904 and again in 1921.

I would suggest asking about your coin in the VAM forum. Those guys and gals in there are super-helpful, friendly, and amazingly knowledgeable... and do not mind questions. And I have asked several.

Best of luck and I hope you get the answers you're looking for.

Cheers.

It would help if you posted an image of the reverse as well since you did not mention the mintmark. It would also be helpful because 1878 varieties are primarily defined by the reverse- 7 feathers, 7/8 feather, 8 feathers, long nock, short nock, etc. 1878 was the first year for Morgans and a lot of design experimentation and variation took place, there are hundreds of known varieties for all three mints.

Morgan varieties are known as VAMs, an acronym for the authors of the seminal reference book for Morgan Dollars- Leroy Van Allen and George Mallis. Each VAM represents a die pairing(obverse and reverse mated together) or a die stage(a particular period in the life of a die). Some VAMs are exceedingly common while others have double digit populations and can command thousands of dollars. Some VAM collectors will only specialize in one of two dates because there are so many seek out- those two years are the first and last, 1878 and 1921.

Beware- VAMs can become very addictive and once you start, it is kind of like Alice going down the rabbit hole

The coin questions you have asked are out of my comfort zone. however, I can comment on the rest somewhat. 1. Don't be afraid to bump a thread of yours a bit once its off the main page. Sometimes you just need to be persistent but polite. 2. I comment on anything I know about or if I have a question. No need to be friends, but at the same time I consider everyone here an honorary friend of mine until reason is given not to. which hasn't happened so far. 3. Kissing butt gets you nowhere here. don't be afraid to say thanks or that someone has an awesome collection or is really knowledgeable but don't go too far or it kind of turns people off too. 4. I've paid nothing but I have considered subscribing for all I've learned here. I don't have much money though so I figure the best way I can pay it back is help people when I can. 5. please edit your post to "dumb bass" like I'm sure you meant to post or just change it to something else. this is a g rated website. 6. the comment "on second thought are you all just ebay coin people? if so sorry for asking questions" is what might make some people question your attitudes. have you said similar things on here?honestly, it rubs me the wrong way kind of but I will let it go and answer your questions that I can still.
if you ever have a question about Barber dimes i'll be there as soon as I can. that's where I'm comfortable although sometimes I can answer other basic questions.
to the site, sorry if it hasn't went that well so far.

ellisx,

We have sections for VAM and grading. You may get quicker responses to specific inquiries.

Fuzzy

ellisx, I've moved your topic into the VAM forum so that it can get the attention of the VAM experts. All Morgan dollars have a VAM # (explained earlier in the thread) so this would be the place to figure out which one you have, and if your coin does indeed have doubling. Plenty of Morgans do.

If you'd be so kind as to upload an image of the reverse, I believe that would help the identification tremendously.

to the forum!

The honest truth is most people tend to focus on one type of denomination, variety or year, etc.. I myself no a little about VAMs but nothing about 2 cent, 3 cent, large cents, etc... I hope that helps explain why no one was able to help in what ever other part of the forum you posted in. I can tell you have a good idea what to look for, you just don't know how to use VAMworld to your advantage yet. I hope you will stick around thie site and offer help when you can.

Kris

The key difference between the two reverse dies is the "O" in GOD.

I think this would end up a details coin, maybe EF details, because of the graffiti on the cheek.

to CCF.