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That is within the rules, coin grading by a TPG is accepted as is. No question for that.
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Well, I really don't like the looks of that 1837 Cap& Rays 8R. The lettering and, particularly, the date look wrong to me. Also, It just seems odd that there are some common coins in lower grades in slabs. Are the slabs authentic? I'm a bit stumped.
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Almost all have consecutive numbers is that even possible? given the different types? fun puzzle ;) ? 
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tokenmast- Good eye! But I'm not sure if that would necessarily indicate fake slabs. Although, as I said above, something does bother me about them. After all, so many of these coins are not that valuable or rare or worth getting slabbed.
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Archraz You get a gold star.  That is the coin that is problematic in the group. The NGC verification checks out so the slab is NOT a fake. BUT THE COIN IS! Did everyone notice that the final G in the assyer statement is actually the Guanajuato mint mark? How about the fact that in 1837 Durango did not issue a coin with a Mexican Eagle? All 1837 8Rs use the French Eagle with the spread wings. Here is the coin as it appears in the auction. 
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And the other side: 
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Finally a genuine coin - in this case they got it right: 
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Very nice swamperbob !
Are those dent looking depressions collapsed mold bubbles? (on first one)
like the surface copied OK then caved in ?
Edited by tokenmast 03/08/2014 12:56 am
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Tokenmast I presume that they are just from post strike damage. I own a higher grade version that is struck.
NGC has another one to answer for. Pretty darned hard to miss this one since the eagle was VERY wrong.
Someone wondered about the numbers. NGC numbers each order and the three digit number is the number of the coin in that submission. So in this group there were 10 submitted at one time.
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NGC quality control is looking pretty bad right about now. I hope they do something before they end up falling below even ANACS and ICG.
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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That is as I would expect since the other 9 are genuine.
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Yes Did try to obtain the missing coin  already gone 
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