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1954 D Lincoln Cent Error? Die Scratches?

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 Posted 03/13/2014  08:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This penny got booted off ebay. It sure looks like an error to me but I am not an expert. Die scratches or something else? Please give me your opinion. I was informed about this site and am grateful. It is loaded with much information and will take some time to navigated but I feel great that I have somewhere to investigate the coins I inherited.
Thanks for any replies.
Deborah
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 Posted 03/13/2014  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like the die was used too long (late die state).
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 Posted 03/13/2014  10:40 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also known as Die Deterioration, interesting.
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 Posted 03/13/2014  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Is that a hair on the coin? You find die scratches on most coins, that's not an error; probably why booted. Die scratches can be used as markers for error coins. Keep reading posts and replies, and ask questions. You'll learn quickly

Error coin clip.
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Variety coin also rpm 7 (re-punched mint mark).
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Marker die scratches for 1956D-1MM-007
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 Posted 03/13/2014  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like it just may be a planchet issue. Not all planchets are created equal, and some of them may show a graininess or almost "wood texture" during the sheeting process. The planchet is then struck, and I agree, probably by a die that was well worn and the end result is what you see.

As a die gets clogged with debris from other strikes, the mint workers usually attempt to clean out some of the debris so the strikes will be clearer and the die gets a longer life. Scratches are quite common, especially in the 1950's-1970's.

Check the mint mark with a Loupe or a microscope, the mint mark may have a "d" over 'd" as described above. typically a good D/D (aka RPM - repuched mint mark) will show a spilt serif, or two distinct points on the top or bottom, or both - of the D, much like the picture shown above.

www.coppercoins.com is a great resource to look for specifics errors and varieties. The "markers" are things that are found on a coin that was struck by the same die. So, a d/d coin may show a die blob, scratches or other things in a particular location. Markers are not always there, due to light or too heavy a strike, or the "age" of the die - which can eventually change the markers as well. Coppercoins has links below a particular year / variety that may show EDS (early die state) MDS (medium die state) or LDS (late die state). usually the EDS versions seems to hold a slightly higher value than the others states.

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It is a combination of two things. One is it is a target area of where die clashes are polished out.
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Also the die is getting close to the VLDS (Very Late Die State) and is showing heavy die flow. Neither of these make a coin a collectable, but a distraction that can lower a coin desirability.

Note the right side of the 4 in the date. The normal depth of the die on it is wearing away so the edge of the device is almost the height of the field in that area. This happens because all devices start to show wear in the direction of the devices facing the rim. The 4 on the right side of the coin. The Left side of the "L" in LIBERTY on the left side of the coin and the motto shows wear on the tops of the devices as they face the rim. In the 1950's they over used the dies to the point that more strange things appear during that time. Hope this helps.
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Is that a hair on the coin?

I think he was circling the area he had in question.
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Thanks for all the wonderful information! It is not a hair and you are correct. I circled it to show the area that is in question. There is more of it then shows in the picture but from what you are saying, it has no value anyways. I have a lot to learn. Thank you all so much. You will probably be reading more from me as I go through these coins. Thanks Again, Deborah
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