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Is This 1922 No D Real?

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Is this too good to be true? IMO this coin would grade AU58-MS60 and be worth between 5-10K. Is it even real? It looks correct to me, but the color looks odd, and why in the world isn't it already graded? In a word....scary! Thoughts please. The seller is also selling a 1916-D Merc that is also amazing. Just seems too amazing for 2 coins like these to be sitting around.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/36088443408..._1143wt_1042

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03/18/2014 12:35 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2014  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Didn't last long. Looks like it has been removed.
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Suspicious. Taken down fast.
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The coin is still listed. I cut and repasted the link and it appears to be working now.
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He has dealt altered baseball cards according to reviews a lot of shady stuff with baseball cards.. but he also does tons of business according to reviews he ships thing so crappy they get damaged...

I wouldn't let my kids get cards from that dealer.
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 Posted 03/18/2014  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add melodyandzoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, I would steer clear of this seller. Might be real, might not be.
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It's so cheap because it still has 6 days left on the bid. I'd imagine this listing will reach the thousands by Monday.

I'll echo that I'd steer clear of this dealer. His photos are very high ISO--makes it harder to spot a polished-off mintmark. I'm not enough of an expert to spot all the die markers, but I wouldn't bite without some sort of certification--especially on a coin in such high grade.
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Yeah, just way too risky without guarantee from seller on authenticity. I'm sure this will be up into the thousands soon. Lots of gamblers out there with $$. I did message seller about a guarantee...let's see what he says.

edit: There is an MS65 for sale at Heritage for 90K, and one could argue that the 1922 in the ebay listing has a stronger obverse.

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?inven...301023#Photo

Just the "possibility" that the one in the ebay list "could" be real drives me crazy
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Looks legit to me too, though the color is weird. I can't collect enough cans and bottles on the roadsides in my neighborhood to allow me to put up a decent bid.
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Nice coin, looks fine to me.
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Hum I might be nuts but it looks like the "D" was removed.

Is-This-1922-No-D-Real?
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If the D was removed it doesn't explain how the rest of the obverse has all the die 2 characteristics. If it was originally a 22-D, the rest of the obverse would look like a 22-D also.
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Just looked at it again zoom in on my tablet , looks like it's removed.
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It's very possible, and it doesn't make sense that a 50K coin sitting around ungraded. If this coin is real it's worth every bit of it. I compared this one with an MS65 on Heritage and it's just as good. I can't afford it anyway, but would be curious to know if seller would guarantee it. I think ebay buyer protection is 30 days.
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Odd that the seller will not pay a few dollars to have that graded and authenticated. That alone would bet him a lot more money.
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Well I'm sticking that the "D" was removed.
Plus his picture has all the light on the top of the coin and dark at the bottom.
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