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1941 Lincoln Wheat Back Double Die Reverse

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 Posted 03/24/2014  4:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My eyeballs are getting buggy looking at all these. Tell me if you think this is double in the lettering please. Then tell me why it would only be in this area and not the whole back. There is so much to learn and I have 3 more 1940's pennies that are like this one on the reverse. Are they worth anything really?


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 Posted 03/24/2014  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Circulation can flatten the devices. A closer look might tell more?
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 Posted 03/24/2014  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I took some more pictures but they don't seem much better then the other two. I gotta learn more about the macro stuff on my camera. Tell me what you think?
Thanks Much,
Deborah

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 Posted 03/24/2014  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PS-Would I be better off just selling these coins in lots? The errors seem minor and I'm not doing that great on ebay? There is so much to learn! Thanks Again.
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 Posted 03/24/2014  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dots can tell the story on these. If the dot is egg shaped, then it maybe a DDR. But if it is not, then it may just be circulation flattening. Your images are improving in each shot though.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you mean, but some look pretty worn and I don't see any dots. I'll keep working on the camera and it's uses. perhaps I need a better microscope also. Thanks!
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Its too bad on these coins that devices are so close to the rim. If the planchet takes an extra strong whack, and themetal moves toward the outter retaining collar, the metal moves in that direction and may give it that blurry look. If the devices were just a tad bit farther away from the rim, collectors would be able to tell if the coin was a DDR or DDO with a little less guess work, especially if the coin has been exposed to medium to heavy circulation.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deborah,
Your pics are getting better. It does not look like a DDR to me,maybe it's a worn die or circulation wear?
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On the eye pieces of you scope are there numbers on them? Mine says WF10X. What does your say?
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Sorry for the delay - my scope just says 30X Illuminated Microscope. It's a Radio Shack and it's just a one eye scope. It gets tough on my eyes. What kind is your's - since you said the eye pieces?

I think you are correct about it not being a DDR, however, I do have another one that does have elongated dots. I will take some pics and post it to this one if that is okay. Thanks for everything - Deborah
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 Posted 03/26/2014  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PS - What is the difference between Double Die and a Machine Doubling? I keep reading about both but don't understand the difference.
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My scope is a stereo scope with two barrels. On the 1943 DDR I posted it has both. The devices are enlarged by the hubbing process and the first image you see Machine Doubling on the left side of the devices. You might ask this question again in a new thread and I could post stuff I've added since that thread was created.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrivertrading to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are great! Thanks, Deborah
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 Posted 03/27/2014  2:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have one thats very similar to this.

AmScope SW-2T24Z 20x-40x-80x Super Widefield Stereo Two Light Microscope
http://www.amscope.com/sw-2t24z.html

Its a beefy well made Stereo microscope and the cost isn't all that much if you're looking for a Stereo Trinocular (3 eye piece) Microscopescope. If your thinking of adding a microscope camera that fits in the Trinocular port and don't want to use an DSLR camera, the 10 megapixel, or higher AmScope microscope camera would probably be the best bet.

I tried the 5 MP one and the details are grainy, but good enough for identification and displaying, but might lack that "ooooh ahhhh punch" needed for impulse sales.

I don't remember what the 10MP microscope camera ran for, but I think I ended up with a case of sticker shock. But, its ironic, because I ended up buying a canon rebel body and microscope attachment for the camera body and didn't flinch. The link above has a minimum magnification of 20x - which may be a bit high. Other stereo microscopes can be found on the AmScope site for something in the 3.5-30x zoom.

You can call them and the can help you decide. the one above is well built and stocky. Thy have others that are smaller in size and cost. I had to keep an eye on the wieght to get an idea the overall size might be. The link above, I think that one runs 15 pounds? While my smaller one might run 6-8 lbs.

I also have a binocular (2 eye piece)that is a 3.5x, 10x, 15x, 30x that I purchased for like 140 bucks. That one shows well, as the LED light enhances the rich copper color of the Lincoln Wheat and Memorial cents.
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