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 Posted 03/26/2014  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What I am talking about are coins that are so damaged, corroded, banged up or otherwise mutilated that they are just plain unsightly - i.e. coins in the sort of condition that just won't sell.


I get what youre saying and yes they are hard sells, but again whats the alternative just throw them away? They have to be sold somewhere if they dont want them anymore or a dealer purchased them. Theres still a market for them and actually a lot of those do sell the fastest in auctions with the lowest risk of them going way under value as opposed to the really nice high value coins that require the right buyer to come along.

Basically my point is it just doesn't make sense to condem a seller for part of their inventory unless its someone whose known to buy problem coins and crack them. Also people buying low value coins one day could be buying expensive ones the next.

As far as the only list two or three times, thats just really not how selling coins work. You could list the exact same coin at the exact price two different times and one time could sell in days while the other takes months.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, they do not find for the customer all the time. The ebay guarantee covers the seller if the item purchased is not as advertised. Buyers remorse is not covered by that guarantee and if I do not offer returns, then I do not have to refund. And since I have been rooked too many times with buyers doing that junk to me, that is now my procedure.

And one more time I say. Nothing being said justifies the original point and nothing said applies to honest sellers.

So, we dont like dishonest sellers. Well no kidding.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, c'mon, I'm not talking about putting in random keywords that would make your coin easily found, but...

Who searches up PQ+++?
Why all caps?

My sincere apologies if I offended anyone...


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03/26/2014 8:46 pm
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 Posted 03/26/2014  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why?

Because ebay is the wild west of the internet with little no real regulation.

Sure they can claim they have rules and your bid is a legally binding contract and all of the rest of the garbage they spew but from what I've seen over the last 15 years there either they are the biggest bunch of hypocrites and will look the other way as long as the dollars come in (sort of like bribing politicians) or they are Detroit and bankrupt and only have enough money for 2 cops to enforce the rules on 1 million listings a day.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Who searches up PQ+++?
Why all caps?


Makes it stand out in their mind. In a way theyre right because you do notice it scrolling even if it does nothing to change your opinion.

Caps I understand as it can make it easier to read, the PQ is borderline trying to prey on the uninformed. Especially if they slapped a sticker on it themselves
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 Posted 03/26/2014  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still at a loss as to what is so awful about it. Yes, it is over the top. So? OK, the guy has an over the top description. In your example, you yourself said a table full of nice coins. So you are talking about someone hyping something nice. How is that an issue?

And jack, how do you equate colorful hype to a lack of rules and regulations?
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03/26/2014 9:32 pm
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 Posted 03/26/2014  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@smokeriderdon

Type any of those terms into the ebay search box and see how many items actually meet that standard.

Minty: lots of VF coins

PQ++ Lustrous: lots of harshly cleaned

and on and on

At least Craigslist has the flag button to weed these key word spammers out.

Oh wait, ebay already has a rule against key word spamming that they do not enforce.
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 Posted 03/26/2014  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RecedingHairlines to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PQ is overused but it's no different from the car salesman who tries to sell you a used Chevy Cobalt with the hyperactive ignition that's a "cream puff" and "owned by a little old lady." It's called free speech and it's allowed as long as you're using opinion and not stating fact. I personally like it when I see PQ because it means I won't click on that coin and can move onto the next one. It makes shopping easier.
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 Posted 03/27/2014  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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jack jeckel Posted - Yesterday 8:54 pm
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Why?

Because ebay is the wild west of the internet with little no real regulation.

Sure they can claim they have rules and your bid is a legally binding contract and all of the rest of the garbage they spew but from what I've seen over the last 15 years there either they are the biggest bunch of hypocrites and will look the other way as long as the dollars come in (sort of like bribing politicians) or they are Detroit and bankrupt and only have enough money for 2 cops to enforce the rules on 1 million listings a day.


You may be on to something there. It may be secretly ran by the Senate.
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 Posted 03/27/2014  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basebal is right about re-listing coins. I've had coins that never got more than 2 or 3 views; for two or three listings. Then a month later I re-list it and I get 10 views and 4 bidders and it sells for $21 instead of 99 cents. I've had really nice mid grade LWC in the teens go for 99 cents. I've also had a really nice, but common, 1945-P in AU go for $11. You just never know.

As to the original posting. I admit I have problems with those as well. I also admit that I once ran parallel adds of similar coins to see if the title made a difference. And it did. Putting down "1921-S Lincoln Wheat cent; VF/XF, hints of red with great mint luster" did way worse than "1921-S BEAUTIFUL MINT LUSTER,MUST LOOK!! HIGH GRADE".

Strangely the former was returned by the buyer who, very politely and apologetically, said it just didn't match the other coins in his Dansco. This coin sold for $1.04 and 99 cent shipping, and the buyer insisted I pay for shipping back to him.

The later sold for $36 and 99 cent shipping and the buyer gave me a rave review in my feedback.

Using the later format I re-listed the former coin and it sold for $28.09.

This was typical of the coins I sold for that period. However; I really don't like titles like that and I don't use them anymore. Lol, and my selling prices are back DOWN to where they were before I tried that experiment.

Lastly I have to say that as a retired Interviewer/Interrogator I wasn't totally surprised at the effect that "buzz words" can have. I was only really surprised at how much of a difference it made to my bottom line. The difference being that I wanted to be more like Nordstroms than Walmart.
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 Posted 03/27/2014  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the end, I could care less about the description. A good, accurate, honest photo will get my bid every time. I'll know if the actual coin differs significantly once in hand. I think skilled photography is the best tool available to a seller.
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 Posted 03/27/2014  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol these kill me >>----> L@@K***1964 Jefferson nickel semi key date***L@@K
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.....ahhhhh but 52Raymo....it's a 6FS!
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 Posted 04/02/2014  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daveodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how about all of those listings with the words, (better date) when it is really the most common date. (high grade) that really means low grade. (key date) see my comments about (better date) and so on. here is the way to bid on ebay, bid like your bidding on junk, not like your bidding on gold.
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As a daily seller on The Bay, I hear your frustration/disdain of trite, overused, under accurate descriptors. However, when a seller provides accurate assessments of a coin as to relative rarity and/or condition it is helpful to many journeyman collectors. I receive positive remarks on a regular basis from buyers that they appreciate the help with their coin's overall assessment/potential worth. Just sayin' .... PG
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