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Subtle Differences Of The 1964-P-1-DO-001 "Cross Bar 4"

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 Posted 03/25/2014  8:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Collector-Corner to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm continuing to dig through the 1964-P 5,000 count bag, and I have found a pretty neat variation. Its based around the strength of a die chip located just under the "R" in LIBERTY. The stronger the die chip is, the more evident the "4 cross bar" is.

My last post where people who complained about the photos not loading, it was probably due to your system having limited memory to observe those images.

I went back and looked at their size, and they were ONLY a WHOPPING 5184 x 3456

These are ALOT smaller, almost 1/8th to 1/10th the size.

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How about the "L" on LIBERTY? Is there a spread on the top or bottom of that device?
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I seen it on the top and bottom of the "L".

I know this is a 1963 but it shows a similar thing where the hub was slighted rotated during the process of making a die:
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Note on this one (proof cent) it is in the opposite direction:
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03/26/2014 8:19 pm
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Coop, I have literally hundreds of the coop 01 above. I personally consider those way to minor to be a DDO, All of them have been tossed into the bucket. I want to see a clear concise cross bar because I want potential buyers to see what they are paying for. That's my personal stance on coins, especially if the type of variety has only been certified by one individual or coin attributor. The variety that's shown above may be absolutely fine, and accepted by the collecting community, but I will personally have a hard time doing a sales pitch for them. Again, that's my opinion and ethical stance on them, unless I can be convinced otherwise. They don't carry a heavy premium and I didn't pay much for this bag, so I am not going to take any loss with as many of the IN G DDO's, with the kite scratch I am pulling. I don't have the DDO number handy. Plus I am typing with cotton inspection gloves on. = )

Yes, both of my examples have the "L" underbar, but its not the strongest in the world. Most are riding the rim and with any device that rides that Lincoln rim, typically I see some funky results.

The example at coppercoins, 1964P-1DO-001 resembles a die chip more than an underbar, which is close to what I have.

1964P-1DO-003 at coppercoins is a super example of an underbar and if all mine looked like that and had the bar like my 2nd example, I'd keep every one of them. But that's the life of coins and varieties. Not everything appeals to everyone.
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That one may be listed on coppercoins by now. They might be worth digging out again. If they are listed, you could send one in and get it listed and then you will know what number so sure it is when they open back up for attributions.
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I don't submit stuff to coppercoins. I'll use a TPG or John Wexler.
It depends on how many I have of each, and the strategy we want to employ during a show.
The crossbars are nice to have, nothing earth shattering, if the ones I posted above sell, cool.
At the rate I am going, in about 1250 coins, I have 4 crossbars and about 1 tube of the 1964P-1DO-006 so far, so the 1964P-1DO-006 numbers will rule this bag.

It adds to what my son and I like to do and that's collect and sell varieties, and the Lincoln Cents and Morgan dollars are keeping us quite busy. = )
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