Old Chinese Coin Identification - Two Cheap Coins

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Chinese Coin Query New Member Australia 29 Posts	Posted 04/01/2014 6:03 pm I just purchased two apparently old Chinese coins and was hoping someone could ID them. They are in the images below (the same coins are left and right in each photo). Using the site http://www.calgarycoin.com/referenc.../chinaid.htm I have tentatively identified the left coin as minted by Chu Yuan-Chang/Rebel Prince Wu (later the first Ming Emperor) in AD 1364-1367 (if genuine). I was wondering if I am right and also what the other coin might be. Many thanks if anyone can help. Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16850 Posts	Posted 04/02/2014 09:48 am These are (or would be, if they were genuine), for reasons which will be explained, three-cash coins. The one on the left is as you have identified: Prince Zhu Yuanzhang of Wu, Da Zhong tong bao, reverse character "Yu", the mintmark for the Henan Province mint. Listed in the Hartill catalogue as number 20.31, rarity factor 7 (where "1" is super-extra-rare and "16" is super-extra-common). On the right we have another Pre-Ming triple-cash, of the Yuan-era rebel Zhang Shicheng, Tian You tong bao (AD 1354-1357). Reverse character "san", meaning "three". Hartill number 19.137, rarity factor 5. My primary reason to be sceptical about their authenticity is their rarity: "7" and "5" are nevertheless rather rare coins; very few coins posted for ID on the forum with a rarity below 11 end up being genuine. If genuine, they certainly should never be "cheap". This, plus the fact that these two coins are suspiciously alike in patination and overall appearance, make me think that they are both artificially aged fakes. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Chinese Coin Query New Member Australia 29 Posts	Posted 04/02/2014 6:23 pm Yeah, I did a little further research on another Chinese coin bought from the same place and concluded they were fake. The other coin was even rarer and it looks like a fake on closer inspection. Thanks for your time though. Report this Post to the Staff
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