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Found My First Fakes On Ebay...i Think...help?

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 Posted 04/03/2014  04:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wilsonwu89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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 Posted 04/03/2014  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lucv13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You'll have to excuse my ignorance but I'm fairly new at this - how can you tell that these are fakes?
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 Posted 04/03/2014  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wilsonwu89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can just tell.

The Queen's face looks weird.

The coin's finish is weird, almost reverse proofish.

When I saw it, I immediately knew it was fake. Is it odd that I sort of want to buy one to put in my collection just so I have a counterfeit to display against my real ones?
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 Posted 04/03/2014  06:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only way to know for sure if you are in any way doubtful, is to personally weigh them, and test for comparative ring tone, before you make a bid. THAT is almost certain NOT to happen!

Bit harder to report him, unless you are almost 100% certain that the seller is a scammer.
In the worst case if you are wrong, you could end up with legal troubles, if he wants to get REALLY nasty. Sometimes the most deceitful scammers with excellent fakes are also the most aggressive to defend themselves, reasoning that attack against you is better than defense.

It is usually much easier to simply find another seller, or buy direct from a bullion dealer with a long established reputation.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  07:48 am  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a rule of thumb, I would never buy coins which have been touched without gloves. It's not very smart of the seller to have pics of holding the coins with your bare hands - this will leave fingerprints which you'll never get rid off again.
And you are right, these are definitely fakes - you can tell by comparing to a genuine 2011 SML:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Silver...em258c01d982
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 Posted 04/03/2014  07:58 am  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is how you report sellers like this one:
http://ocs.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...rtItemMember
I just did...
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 Posted 04/03/2014  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brexzz1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
His negative feedback he received was because of a fake coin
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He has great feedback. I am surprise he would throw it all away for a few extra sales. The maples look pretty good. Aside from the reverse proof finish it's hard to tell. Could it be his camera? Or if they are fake he probably doesn't know. He's got 6 listed and has 3 sold in his history. To throw away a 3815 rating for $200 doesn't add up. I think you should message him to let him know he might be selling potential fakes.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can tell these are fakes:
- the maple leaf veins are too pronounced
- the gap between 9999 and fine and pur on either side is too small
Just compare to the standard SML from the listing I mentioned above.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Check omxfl's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add omxfl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just dropped him a kind message. Let's see...
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Those are 100% fake. No question about it.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yup those are fake...you can tell in the maple leaf
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 Posted 04/03/2014  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solidifier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want to buy one just to have and compare.....would go nice with my fake panda
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 Posted 04/03/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I had to decide right now, I'd say they're fake.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The leaf on these fake SML reminds me of those copper maple rounds...

Here is the copper round, got from the internet:
Found-My-First-Fakes-On-Ebay...i-Think...help?

And here is the fake SML:
Found-My-First-Fakes-On-Ebay...i-Think...help?
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 Posted 04/03/2014  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scary... pretty nice finish... would have thought the reverse proof was some kind of error...

Another way to tell for sure would be to explore some of the other items the seller has posted and compare them to the real deal...
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