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 Posted 04/03/2014  09:17 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sherwooddavid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As a newbie I'm just wondering why most of the folks on the forum are collecting ?

Do you just love the hobby and plan on holding on to tour collection to enjoy over the years ?

Are you collecting as an investment hoping to make a few bucks and would sell if the right price came along.

Or maybe a little of both.

Personally I rarely sell anything I collect so I'll hold on to all my collection to enjoy and eventuality the grand kids will own it.

Hope I'm not being too inquisitive, as new to all this I'm just a little curious and decided to ask.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mostly collector but I expect the collection will be the only inheritance my kids gets. "The last cheque you should write should be for your funeral and that cheque should bounce"! We sell a lot of stuff that we've upgraded from or is surplus from smaller collections we've acquired but we rarely break even on it and usually book a loss after all the fees and shipping charges.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peanutbutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im a collector first. I love looking at the history of coins. I've only sold 1 coin and that was because I had 2 and wanted to buy something else. But in the end if my kids arent interested in them, yea id hope to make a profit.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying modern NCLT should never me thought of as an investment. Buy them if you like the coins, but don't expect to break even, let alone make a profit in the long run.
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 Posted 04/03/2014  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TC3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a little of both. If the opportunity arises and you can make a few bucks, then sure. But collecting comes first; for me anyway.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Opera12mi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I only buy coins that I really love.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"The last cheque you should write should be for your funeral and that cheque should bounce"!

I love it :) Is this copyrighted? haha

I personally began in collecting only, circulation when I was younger and NCLT for 3-4 years now. At first I bought qty 1, finally began to buy 2-3 of every thing I thought would rise in value, selling the extra to finance my hobby. I finally created a webstore to avoid ebay crazy fees and kijiji/craigslist crazy lowballers, missed meeting, etc.
So coin collecting is still more a hobby than anything else, but I developed another hobby at the same time in creating the webstore, discovering all this internet stuff. I always search for deals anyway to improve my own collection, so when I find a deal for an item I already have or doesn't fit into my collection, I buy it anyway and can offer it at a reasonable price to those who want it. I'm on a few coin collecting forums as well and feel very good when I read that someone is looking for something and I have it in stock, I can then PM him and usually offer to him at lower than market price. I like people here and on RFD, I spend a lot of time here and sometimes get deals because of you guys so I try to give it back. I'm not a dealer or anything so I don't get discounts directly from the mints.

Last year, the Silver Bullet Bullion (not NCLT but silver bullion) were hard to find a reasonable price here in Canada (importing fees from NWTM were higher and import "concern" with a bullet-shaped item. I had an address I could ship in the USA so I ordered some and this is when I decided to open my webstore. To be able to lower the price (10% crazy ebay fees!!) I sold many of them at a much lower price than what could be found on ebay.

Anyway, this is me, collecting/investing/having fun in this coin collection world! ;)
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 Posted 04/04/2014  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collector.
Have not enough free budget to make an invest.
Sold a few items, that bought being in rush, or under "hype".
Will sell a few items, understanding, that I do not need them in my collection.

Off cause I would like to "make a profits" too, but this requires additional resources (time, effort, money), that I do not ready to put.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am first a collector, I love coins with animals, as I have mentioned love elephants on coins, birds. Love the african various african wildlife featured on coins as an example.

So I like to collect those type coins and I like coins that mark a specific event or say location.... Then I like coins that celebrate or honor a time period, such as I like the new Dr Who coins celebrating the shows history.

I have not sold a single coin. Would I? I dunno. Maybe some of the bullion coins in my collection but I enjoy them still so I am not really interested in that.

I do think tho, that the coins, IF such a situation should arise (i hope not but life is uncertain) that if I do need to sell, that at least when I sell, they produce a profit.

Thats very dicey tho. The markets are flooded with coins. Very few coins hold their value that are released. Then you have to decide exactly what type coins will you be buying. I have only bought "modern" silver and gold coins throughout the years.

So like others say, buy what you like, if you buy towards selling, consider just investment type grade bullion coins (tho I am against right now in this time period investing in PMs of any kind).

Time will tell what happens,,, I think if someone was buying coins as an investment, it would have to be almost a full time job, as some coins you would want to be flipping others, a FEW, would be long term holds.

What we need really is some sort of database AND tracking software that charts prices, based off the marketplace.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am a little of both. I flip coins to get money to buy coins for my collection.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I really don't think most coins make a good investment. Those that do .. well, you have to spend a decent amount in order to make a decent profit in most cases. So me, I'm a collector.

Now that doesn't mean I don't sell coins. I have a fixed amount of money for my collection, so if I want to fill gaps or upgrade poorer examples then I have to supplement the cash gifts I get for Christmas and my birthday with selling. But usually it's either a coin for which I have already identified a better replacement, or one I bought and have tired of.

OK, I've made a reasonable profit on sales more recently. But that's because the coins I'm selling are mostly ones I bought over 10 years ago. I've been lucky in picking up a few unrecognised rarities and knowing a buyer that would like one too. But my coins form no part of my pension planning or savings strategy. If they are eventually worth more than I paid, nice. But if not ... well, I've had the pleasure of their company for a few years. Seems a reasonable trade-off to me. Like renting a painting or piece of artwork.
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04/04/2014 12:46 pm
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 Posted 04/04/2014  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But if not ... well, I've had the pleasure of their company for a few years. Seems a reasonable trade-off to me. Like renting a painting or piece of artwork


That's a very good philosophy.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dominic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what is flipping coins exactly? and how is it done? sounds like a lot of people are doing it... I just can't seem to figure out the profit part! lol
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 Posted 04/04/2014  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dominic
Flipping coins is actually buying a coin and reselling it the fastest as you possibly can.
And profit part is sometimes a guess [I guess this coin will sell-out fast and price will skyrocket], sometimes certain [you find a coin selling for 200$ at a garage sale for 10$].

So this is all a question of how much risk you are willing to take. Usually flipping, in coins or others like real estate, is finding a real bargain and buying, knowing that you can sell it for much more the very next day.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aarf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If they are eventually worth more than I paid, nice. But if not ... well, I've had the pleasure of their company for a few years. Seems a reasonable trade-off to me.


Very well put and is exactly the way I feel about it as well.
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 Posted 04/04/2014  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add awallin01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Myself I like collecting coins for the 'history in your hand' feeling, the learning that accompanies collecting-I think we are all passionate learners/teachers.

I do like to put my money into my collection, but I'm after no monetary reward. The reward is in the collection, involving dead coins resurrection. Collections have monetary value, and are an investment to the business collector but not so much to the coin resurrecter. It's a labor of love to many of us :).

To see the world in a coin still stand,
And the historic numismatic power,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand,
And eternity in an hour.




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04/05/2014 12:26 pm
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