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Is there a way to tell a difference between an matte proof and and uncirculated Wheat cent? What I am trying to figure out is if some people are selling BU cents when they really could be an matte proof or vis versa. I found a few more early proofs today and am only missing the 1936 and 38. Now I am on to the matte proofs and no one around where I live has any of these, so I will be looking online for them.
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The rims will be very sharp and squared off. The devices will be very sharp and squared to the fields. Also, do a search for Matte on the PCGS boards and you'll see some very nice examples. You should even see some "close calls" that are really just business strikes.
Edited by Prethen 07/24/2007 10:42 pm
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Edited by 50cents 07/24/2007 11:09 pm
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Okay...you got me. That 1911, in those pictures, looks like it can be a Proof to me with the exception that the fields don't have a uniform smooth appearance. Count me in on the befuddled side.
Edited by Prethen 07/24/2007 11:11 pm
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Some will have a satin type finish while others will have a deep matte finish which will be dull with granular lustre.
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Thanks for the answers, I will look into the book. I am thinking I will stick to certified matte proofs, I was looking around ebay and a couple that were labeled BU UNC looked just like the matte proof to me, there is an 1910 MP up right now that is raw.
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MPLs have certain diagnostics (In the book) for each date and a lot of times, business strikes are mistaken for a true MPL. Be very careful buying raw from ebay and good luck in your quest.
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Dewayne...sounds like you're talking about 3CN (business strikes vs. proofs being down to the diagnostics)....my type of talk!
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Those MPLs always develop such wonderful toning  Here are a couple more to look at- http://www.earlyus.com/c.htmedit: website is being revamped so link is 
Edited by biokemist6 08/22/2007 11:25 am
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Nice cents, a little out of my price range. It might take me a little while to complete my Lincoln proof set :( I keep going to the coin shows looking for that mis-marked proof!
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I read on the PCGS board where one lucky bloke did just that. He bought a 1909 raw that ended up being a Matte Proof!! I forgot if it was a VDB though. He paid next to nothing for it, too.
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Just an update, I got a 1910 MPL coming and am so excited!! I think I am happier than when I got my S-VDB. I did buy the book(if you want to call it that) on matte proofs. It basically is a reprint of an article in some magazine. The 1910 is the highest mintage, 4,000 something, but never less I am still very excited! I also think I got a great deal on it, $380. Now if only Dansco and other book makers put a spot in the books for these the prices would skyrocket.
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I wouldn't buy one of those raw. Best to purchase only slbbed ones to be sure. Possible to find raw ones but unless a great price, may not be what it is being sold for. True if there was a slot in Whitman or Dansco albums the price would rise dramatically. But since there isn't, at least for now, good time to buy them.
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Seeing this thread made me wonder a little more about one I have. The crispness of the design looked so good when I bought it. Probably should have it submitted to see what it grades. 
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