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 Posted 04/13/2014  6:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Anyone had any experience with this seller? He seems to have far too many 'very' rare errors to be real. Only one error was returned as misdescribed that I can see but all his history is beyond the 12 month window ebay offers.
Might have a very productive back shed Shane, what do you reckon?

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 Posted 04/13/2014  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the first 3 I see as fake the copper 2c the obv has no RM on the trunk the crown is just wrong. the 3p he has can bee done by pressing a cupro nickel on to a silver 3p in press
any way I would not buy anything from this seller . I have heard there was someone with a 3d printer making coins down junee wagga area (how I don't know) 3d printer are getting very good with time they can make a human body part so they could make a die or coin . just my 2bobs worth
I would not report this one to ebay I would go straight to the Australian federal police with what he has sold you will see a pattern the real one like the penny miss strike he has he puts real dollar like $850 but the fake start very low
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 Posted 04/13/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Shane, thanks for your thoughts mate. I have to be triple sure before I affect a person's reputation and business prospects so I will chew over your suggestions for a bit.
I can't see a lot of difference between this 2 cent on a one cent planchet and the one this seller has listed and I have complete faith in the integrity of Sterling $ Currency.

http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/...uncirculated

Give me your thoughts if you have a chance. Thanks. darge.
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 Posted 04/13/2014  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Andrews one has rmd on the trunk I buy from Andrew often
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 Posted 04/13/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a bit confused Shane, they both appear to have rdm on the trunk to me. Am I looking at the wrong thing? You mean the trunk of the effigy's neck don't you?
Don't want to bog down on this coin, it is more the double strikes I have an issue with. They are too easy to counterfeit and he has too many for them not to be fake. imo
Anyone else have an opinion?
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 Posted 04/13/2014  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know this coin was for auction a day or so ago,i think the final price was $294,i had it in my ebay because I was going to have a bid on it but there is no sign of it in my watched items or in completed listings now.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ERROR-19...b74a3&_uhb=1

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04/13/2014 10:10 pm
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 Posted 04/13/2014  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! appleangel07 that was the reason I took an interest also, I had also intended to bid. When I saw it relisted I started checking a little deeper and found he has sold far too many double strikes to be plausible. [in my opinion]
If he really has had that many genuine ones then they are as common as chalk and quite simply they can't be worth much.
The coin was showing in his completed listings last night and it did sell for $294.
I would hate to cast a shadow over an honest seller but my instincts are jangling with this one.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've bought from him & never had any problems at all,the listing we're talking about could have been mutual cancellation for what ever reason & thats why it does'nt show in completed listing.

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 Posted 04/14/2014  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2c in the original post looks original to me. The obverse lettering has some fishtailing where the metal has flowed outwards instead of filling the die.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah the 2 cent & the shilling are genuine I reckon.
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 Posted 04/14/2014  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi appleangel07 and enworb
I agree the 2 cent is most likely genuine, but I actually never doubted that one. I believe it is seriously overpriced but there is no crime in that. [not indictable anyway]
I posted the listing number for that listing deliberately rather than draw negative attention to his shilling listing in case my concerns were unfounded.

It is the double strikes I suspect.

Have you looked back through his feedback to see how many he has sold?

Far too many. imo
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