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Edited by nickpicker
04/14/2014 4:57 pm
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Uh oh, no replies. Does that mean I finally asked the proverbial "dumb question?"
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Something that makes devices look thicker is where there is a little grease in the die. This makes the devices look wider as the top part of the device is filled in making the devices look wider. The "STA" looks like that maybe what is going on with your coin. Note the "TES" is normal sized. If this were a doubled die you would see uniform doubling. Here is a DDR for that year. Note how it is uniform across these devices?  Also when a die is over polished the devices get thinner because the filed is reduced and this alter the devices overall size.   I would hang onto this one for now. I do like that you used a side by side. Always make sure to use the same date devices. Some years were different size. IE: the 2001-2003 obverses were wider than the previous year and later years. I'm not saying you did that, but just a general heads up for the side by sides. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Nope not at all!! Can you send a image of E plurbis unum? Close clear as possible
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All looks normal in the photos provided.
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Here is the best I can do right now. Lighting sucks, I know.   |
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Thanks for your reply Coop! I did use the same year for that side by side.
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Also, the E in 'E PLURIBUS UNUM' looks thicker.
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Bedrock of the Community
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To me it looks like a slight Grease Fill on these devices which make the devices appear wider. With all these happening in the same area, is what convinces me that is what happened to the die. |
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I tried another side-by-side of the word UNITED. My coin is on the top. All the letters look thicker on my coin, at least to me anyway. Also did ONE CENT, and mine looks thicker there too. What do you think Coop, still grease? Or a PREVIOUSLY UNDISCOVERED DDR!! Naw, just kidding.    Edited by nickpicker
04/15/2014 09:22 am
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Side by side comparisons can be tricky. You have to factor in the age of the dies. Some may represent Early Die State (EDS) Medium Die State (MDS) or Late Die State (LDS) or Very Late Die State (VLDS).
This would probably make one coin look wider than another. Another issue is, the die set itself could have been engraved a little differently, or, it could be that one die set is simply hammering a coin just a tad bit stronger than the other die.
This is a mechanical process - so things aren't an exact science. There will be subtle changes between every die pair.
The phrase "thickness" is one I have an issue with. Just because a coin is "thicker", to me is not an indication of a Doubled Die. Thicker doesn't indicate doubling. Thicker to me means it's nothing more than a poor man's version of a doubled die.
Edited by Collector-Corner
04/15/2014 10:39 am
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I guess I'll set this one aside for now. Maybe I'll try to find coins with a similar die state and see if I can figure out how common this is.
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This is pretty common on 1983 reverses, I see it quite often.
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