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2014 Proof Shenandoah Nt'l Park Doubled Die?

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 Posted 04/16/2014  5:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oneeye to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This looks cut and dry to me, with the clad proof sets still for sale I'm wondering how rare they will be.

Thoughts.

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 Posted 04/16/2014  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a side by side of the image from the mint and the coin you posted. Looks possible.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Comparing your Shenandoah to mine, it DOES look doubled die. What a find, send it to be graded!
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 Posted 04/16/2014  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would send it to John Wexler. He is up to date on these new varieties. Go to his site and see what he thinks.
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I have to say! That is AWESOME what a coin! Back to the coin shop to dig through more proof sets! Amazing coin
Please post updates with your findings how awesome!
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I only signed up at the mint and bought them because I live in Shenandoah County, and I wanted the coins from my home. Excellent. I will update when I have an attempt to get it authenticated as a DD and not a Mechanical or other lesser variety.
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 Posted 04/16/2014  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chettieyy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CONGRATS on the find!

Seeing this thread made me go check the 2 2014 clad sets I have and on one of the sets, the dime has a crater on the upper right reverse with remnants of what looks to be a struck through but will have to get pics up to get the expert opinions... Check your dimes as well as quarters.. will post pics to this thread hopefully tmrw.. Till then
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Wow had to look again what a awesome coin!
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NEW PICS!!


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 Posted 04/18/2014  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is a doubled die. Looks more like slight shifting of the die between the two strikes.
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I've sent proofs in like this and they just come back as a graded proof with no variety listed. A proof is "allowed" more than one strike, and that's what I am seeing here.

I don't have the analytical software / measurement software to see if the spacing is consistent all / most of the way around the coin. The good Ole' "Ten Picks" I used to use are too big for these pics, plus they don't bend in a curve.

You never know what a TPG service will say. WE have to think Outside the box, due to the way these coins are struck. They aren't struck in the 1950's through 1980's methods anymore. If I had the coin in hand, I'd send it into a TPG inside the holder and have them attribute it that way, being specific that you want JUST this Quarter looked over. Send them a bnote / call them up as well, and explain the situation, if that's a route you wish to follow.
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Great advice. And ill take it. That's why this place rules
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The problem is a TPG will only attribute a known and cataloged die variety so if you send them a new discovery, they will only list it as a normal coin. Another problem is that NGC and PCGS only attribute a select list of die varieties so even if this was a new and recognized discovery, they would not slab it as such anyway. However, ANACS(and I think ICG) will attribute any die variety that is in a published reference book.
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How about sending images of the coin to CONECA? They would have an idea of what it is and where to go from there.
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Interesting how the "L" in LIBERTY shows more notching than letters closer to the center of the coin.
That might be explained by the die being rotated slightly between hubbings.
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The coin is off getting graded. I believe this particular coin may have some Strike Doubling and doubled die effects all at once. I am currently hunting for another. If there are more with the same attributes then there will be a case to be made and I will get them out to Wexler and Coneca. Just picked up a roll of 40 clad proofs off of the bay.

You all have my permission to do the same....
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