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Help With Possible Colonial Copper Coin

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 Posted 04/21/2014  10:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add davef to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have been a lurker here for several years but never really had enough knowledge to post. I have collected coins and stamps for over 55 years on the amateur level. Since retiring I have started metal detecting again and recently during a 2 day period I found a 1773 English half penny, a 1797 large cent and what looks to me to possibly be a 1776 New Hampshire copper. I am computer eliterate and have no idea how to post pictures even if I could get a decent photo to show any detail.

The colonial coin and the others are well worn but on my colonial the harp and the lady on the left side are very visible. The images are a little further to the left of the coin than the example shown on the Red Book coin.

I have no illusions that this coin is a great treasure but if there is any member I could send a possible photo to I might be able to get the wife to take a decent picture. I have searched through the web and see there were 100 pounds of copper used to make these coins but only around 10 are known. I realize the odds of one showing up here in Pa. are slim.

Maybe my question should be is there another world coin that has a similar design?
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 Posted 04/21/2014  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds colonial. Quite impressive that you found these after only two days. I only find corroded beer cans. Do you have a digital photo or a paper one?

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 Posted 04/21/2014  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the CCF!

Without a picture all replies can only be conjecture. Maybe a Mod would allow an image to be emailed to them and help with getting a pic posted? I would love to see what you found!!
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 Posted 04/21/2014  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johntookit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could it be a Great Britain half penny from 1714-1727
Hibernia-woman sitting, playing harp.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to see you delurk.

I would be happy to help you with image posting - my email is my nick, minus the double consonants (superdave) at coincomunity.com. Another possibility, if you have one, is to use a scanner - they're excellent at showing detail if not so hot at color and luster.

I'm inclined, at first thought, to agree with johntookit that your coin is a Ha'penny - possibly with an off-center strike - but images are imperative for us to offer any kind of concrete opinion.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Superdave: Sorry but I can't follow what you mean as far as an email address and I can't send one through the web site because of a lack of posts. If allowed my email is redacted but the address is all ran together with no spaces. Thanks for trying to help and I was able to get a couple photos taken. I do not believe it is an English Half Penny as it appears to me to show a lady stretched out on the left side of the harp. I did measure it when I found it and it is 2 millimeters larger than a 2 cent piece which I thought it could be.
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You're going to have an email from me in a couple minutes. I've hidden your address, for reasons I'll explain in the email.
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Does it look like this? If we can establish that, we would be more able to help you.

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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Does it look like this?


Probably not! Because....


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The colonial coin and the others are well worn but on my colonial the harp and the lady on the left side are very visible.



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Hibernia-woman sitting, playing harp


Likely, Irish?,....BUT
without a pic ALL is a guess............Ddaves suggestions are crucial.....
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that is what it looks like but I can only see the harp side on my coin. Originally I could only make out a small part what I thought might be a 2 cent piece. I soaked it in hot peroxide twice and was able to see a little more detail on the one side. Once I found a picture in the Red Book I didn't want to mess with it any more till I found more out about it. If I get superdaves reply I will forward pictures to him but the coin is not in very good condition.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should have taken a better look at what I thought was a lady stretching. It is the left side of the harp but I honestly thought it looked like a lady stretching on the well worn coin.

In my opinion the harp is the same as what I'm seeing on the coin now.

Thanks to everyone for trying to help.
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to CCF!
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Here are images, although I'm unsure if they'll help:

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The pics help a great deal, Ddave. Even if you couldn't make out the letters of HIBERNIA in the legend, which I think you can, this harp is topped by what would never be found on an American coin after 1776: a crown. This should turn out to be a George III Hibernia halfpenny, or, more likely, one of the contemporary counterfeits, or "evasion" coppers, many of which came to America from forgers in Dublin. There are visible letters on the obverse as well. With better pics, we might be able to read a fictitious evasion legend, like GEORGE WASHINGTON, instead of the regal GEORGIVS III REX.
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 Posted 04/21/2014  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, George ii Hibernian Ha' Penny...
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 Posted 04/21/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What's making you think George II, amida
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