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1967 Tubed Cents

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I was going through a tubed roll of BU cents and I found this one:
1967-Tubed-Cents
I looked closer at it and it looked even more interesting:
1967-Tubed-Cents
The mark on the jaw, the indentation in the field and the semi-circle line.
1967-Tubed-Cents
I posted a few years back about it and got an answer about it. So I know now what it is. See if you can tell me what it is? A chance for learning something about coins.
I have more images to post later, so think about it first before commenting.

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 Posted 04/23/2014  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems like no one what to start with this one. What do you notice on this coin?

So far 59 have looked at it. No comments yet.
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At first it looks like an offcenter rotated clash, but it affects the upper portions of the devices to much. I have no idea.
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Looks to be an indented off center strike to me.
Maybe even double struck.
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I'd like to guess, but it is well beyond my ken... I'll have to wait for others.
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Ok, time for a clue: What is different about the circumference of this coin?
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The beveled edge seems to be missing about half way around.
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probably the coin here didnt get kicked out of the collar in time. A blank planchet, or another coin that been partially hammered lands ontop of this coin and it gets hammered again, leaving the blank planchets imprint on the coin above.

That theory could be easily debunked or proven correct, depending on what the reverse has to show. Since nothing is actually doubled on a the coin, other than a rim, it more than likely came from another coin.

That would be some major die clash.... they'd end up tossing the die or using a ton of sandpaper to remove.
Double strike on this single coin would definately show more devices at the off center point.

The Circle at the chin looks to be the size of the "O" in ONE Cent, but as deep as it is, there should be more to this if this was a die clash.....

Too hard to tell if another coin can be positioned ontop of this one, to see if the "O" in ONE lined up just right. If another coin fits in that off center ring, it belongs to another coin.
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04/23/2014 11:35 am
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Second clue: Note the semi-circle ring on the coin's surface. Question: What could have caused this? (No one is getting close yet)
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Struck through another cent first. Once out of the collar and once again proper in the collar. Think I see Lincolns shoulder impression from the other coin, which would mean it was flipped. The 6 is raised but the 9 has a shelf inside the semi circle, which is puzzling.
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What is the whitish looking color on the bottom rim? Has that anything to do with it?
edit Is this some form of a "Mule" coin?
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Possibly struck through twice? Is that possible? Look at the arced line that goes from the bottom of the bust to the "9". It looks to be separate and to the left of the main larger arc going through the majority of the coin.
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It kind of looks like struck through a VLS die cap that might have shifted or fallen on your coin off center. just a guess
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Would the word "clash " be in the description?
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I'm aving a hard time seeing what parts are raised or recessed. I can see it in the date, but it's lost on my eyes in the semi-circular part. All I can think of is another coin or planchet that got in the way.
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I probably shouldn't say this, but this isn't a single "process".
this is where the "hypathetical" guesses come into play.
Without seeing the reverse, its like a detective going to a crime scene when half the evidence was already carted away.
You'll only get Half- errrrr answers.
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