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Pillar of the Community
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probably the coin here didnt get kicked out of the collar in time. A blank planchet, or another coin that been partially hammered lands ontop of this coin and it gets hammered again, leaving the blank planchets imprint on the coin above.
That theory could be easily debunked or proven correct, depending on what the reverse has to show. Since nothing is actually doubled on a the coin, other than a rim, it more than likely came from another coin.
That would be some major die clash.... they'd end up tossing the die or using a ton of sandpaper to remove. Double strike on this single coin would definately show more devices at the off center point.
The Circle at the chin looks to be the size of the "O" in ONE Cent, but as deep as it is, there should be more to this if this was a die clash.....
Too hard to tell if another coin can be positioned ontop of this one, to see if the "O" in ONE lined up just right. If another coin fits in that off center ring, it belongs to another coin.
Edited by Collector-Corner 04/23/2014 11:35 am
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
62064 Posts |
Second clue: Note the semi-circle ring on the coin's surface. Question: What could have caused this? (No one is getting close yet)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Struck through another cent first. Once out of the collar and once again proper in the collar. Think I see Lincolns shoulder impression from the other coin, which would mean it was flipped. The 6 is raised but the 9 has a shelf inside the semi circle, which is puzzling.
Edited by Halo1st 04/23/2014 1:29 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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What is the whitish looking color on the bottom rim? Has that anything to do with it? edit Is this some form of a "Mule" coin?
Edited by bpoc1 04/23/2014 3:11 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
663 Posts |
Possibly struck through twice? Is that possible? Look at the arced line that goes from the bottom of the bust to the "9". It looks to be separate and to the left of the main larger arc going through the majority of the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It kind of looks like struck through a VLS die cap that might have shifted or fallen on your coin off center. just a guess
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United States
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Would the word "clash " be in the description?
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United States
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I'm aving a hard time seeing what parts are raised or recessed. I can see it in the date, but it's lost on my eyes in the semi-circular part. All I can think of is another coin or planchet that got in the way.
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Pillar of the Community
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I probably shouldn't say this, but this isn't a single "process". this is where the "hypathetical" guesses come into play. Without seeing the reverse, its like a detective going to a crime scene when half the evidence was already carted away. You'll only get Half- errrrr answers.
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: Without seeing the reverse, its like a detective going to a crime scene when half the evidence was already carted away. You'll only get Half- errrrr answers.  That "Coop" can fool us all.  Love it!
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Bedrock of the Community
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OK, now we are getting some where. The reverse needs to be seen. The reverse is normal except for one area:   Now if this was a striking issue with the coin being struck twice, the reverse should look like what? So lets sum up the facts so far: 1. The coin is not round. 2. The higher devices and the fields are affected. 3. There is a rim mark on the obverse. 4. The reverse does not show any transfer on the reverse and is actually flattened. So what do we have here?
Edited by coop 04/23/2014 8:55 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think PMD (squeeze job).
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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DING DING! You got it. In a different roll of the three tubes I later found this cent:   The cause of the damaged coin. So thinking the BU coins in the tubes were not altered was a wrong assumption.
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United States
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Awesome! Even though it's damage, you got a "mated pair"! Lol!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
62064 Posts |
The problem is that anyone with a vise and Two Cents can create one of these. But I'm trying to educate on how to recognize these. There reverse image of the wrinkle finish on the EPU area helps me to realize when we see this on a coin, the coin has been altered. What ever they used to keep the vise from making the teeth marks on the outside two coins, is now transferred a wrinkled finish.
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