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Which Silver Bullion To Buy?

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 Posted 04/25/2014  12:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add silver surfer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys I have another question, which 2014 silver bullion would you suggest I buy I found a great dealer here and he has all the major countries bullion but I'm looking for something special and rare

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 Posted 04/25/2014  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDCrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get them all! That doesn't help? Ok. If he has all the major countries minted in 2014, nothing will be particularly rare. Having said that, some coins are capped at or less than 1 million. Examples would be Perth Lunar Horsed, Kookaburras, and Canadian Flacons. More obscure coins like Benin elephant, Rwanda Impala, Aussie Kangaroo, and NZ Kiwi will have mintages in the 5-20k range, but are most likely going to be priced higher than the others. Eagles, maples, philharmonics, pandas, etc. are minted in the millions or tens of millions annually. Assuming the coins are all priced the same (which I doubt they are), I'd start with coins that have an alternating annual design like the Lunars, Kookaburras, Koalas, Pandas, etc.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LeoS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd consider the goal of these. If you see at some point in the future selling them, I don't see many paying a premium, and some may look at some of the odder ones and not want them. I'd stick with ASEs if that's the case, they carry low premiums, are universally recognized and look cool too.

If you want something to look at forever, buy what you like to look at.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Leo,

If the OP is "looking for something special and rare", an ASE ain't it. As beautiful and timeless as the ASE design is, I got totally bored with it after the 50 or 60th one I bought. Same with Maples, Libertads, Philharmonics, and all the other never-changing (other than the date - whoopee!) bullion out there.

It made sense to me to find a limited run series I liked and go about purchasing as many years as possible of them. SDC already mentioned some good ones. Aussie Kangaroos and NZ Kiwis are among my all-time favorites. The Lunar series from any number of countries is quite interesting (and typically low mintage), also. Canada made a low mintage stamp and coin series beginning around 2004 that I really liked. They had an awesome presentation, came in a nice, large wooden box, with a very informative pamphlet, and I had to have all of them. Canada also had a series of playing card-shaped coins (ten, jack, queen, king) that was pretty cool. Mongolia has an ongoing series that started around 2004-2005 called Wildlife Protection. I love them all but they started getting pricey by 2012 (I mean "hundreds" of dollar each) and I stopped collecting. Cook Islands, Nuie Islands, Palau, and Tuvalu have some great series that cover any number of hobbies and interests. Most don't run over 20k with 5k being more common. Some hold their value very well, some quickly skyrocket to unbelievable price heights, but most are never worth more than their initial cost. But if you buy what you like, it doesn't matter where the price ultimately settles.

There are almost endless possibilities, though. Get on ebay, find something that interests you in a search, and have at it.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDCrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you plan on selling these, all the more reason in my opinion to buy coins with alternating designs. Please compare the selling price of a 2012 Kookaburra to a 2012 eagle. Please compare the price of a 2011 panda to a 2011 eagle. Please compare the price of a 2008 koala with a 2008 eagle, etc. Saying folks will not pay a premium is simply not true. Sure, some may not want them and some may not pay more for them. Easy fix: sell to those who will... there's plenty of them out there. There's very little potential premium upside to a 2014 silver eagle with a mintage of 40 million coins.

With everything I've mentioned aside, the op also wanted something rare... something an ASE is not, in terms of both design and mintage.

Edit: You beat me to it traevin. Sorry to repeat some of the points you made.
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04/25/2014 6:20 pm
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 Posted 04/25/2014  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea what they said above, I'd say the rarest of the newest ones out is the Benin 2014 silver elephant.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silver surfer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys, I am going to sell silver I buy 3 of each so that I can sell them without losing a beautifull coin I'm going to start to buy silver bars as well so the day I retire I have a big nest egg with my pensiin fund but I want to try to keep a copy of each coins so lets say 4 oz by 12 by 35 years is 1680 oz in bars so it will add to my retirement fund
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 Posted 04/25/2014  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like a great plan, SS. The key, like with most things worth doing, is to consistently stick with it. Even slow growth of a PM collection over time beats no growth, hands down. There are tons of addictions out there, some far less healthy than others. Collecting silver has to ranks as one of the more beneficial, guilt-free, and respectable ones :)
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 Posted 04/25/2014  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1st, set yourself a plan or target

2nd, learn about the ways how to work out your plan and achieve the target

3rd, what is your time limits

4th, according to the above find the best coins.


It all depends, as some are doing good buying let's say ASEs in monster boxes and retailing them in order to reduce the cost average. As for me I buy only semi-numiz and numiz, and sell some in order to achieve the very same goal. I don't have touch to any of my coins as I have nothing rare, for every coin I have there is a price I'D sell it for.

Yup is right, Benin Elephant coin is the best buy in numiz market currently. First coin in the series, very nice design, and very good coin quality. If you plan to keep the coin for several years it will bring some return in my opinion. I have got 10 coins, so I am not advising what I haven't done to myself.

If you are not only after silver content and want to have some numismatic exposure then do not buy ASE, Maple, Philharmonikers, etc. ...nothing special about these ones (But not with ASEs proof coins - if you can get them around $35-40 then it is pretty good buy).



P.S. I personally dislike silver bars and rounds ... I'd better pay three times spot and get two coins I believe in, sell one and keep another at spot.
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 Posted 04/28/2014  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add winterfell to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd recommend the US Mint's America the Beautiful 5 oz silver coins. Low mintage and 5 different designs to choose from.
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 Posted 04/28/2014  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can´t recall the year of this coin but there was a Mongolian coin with amazing detail and set stone. If I had the money I´d get one. Most bullion is blah, although the Australian Kookaburra changes year to year. Mexico has some great series as well, lots of them haven´t even sold out yet so grab them.
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 Posted 04/28/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's all sorts of odd stuff out there, being hawked by governments you wouldn't necessarily expect to be jumping into the bullion biz. I saw an Armenian Noah's Ark coin on ebay recently, and today I picked up a 500 tenge proof finish issue from Kazakhstan, of all places. The latter is one troy ounce of...sterling instead of .999 as you'd think would be logical from a marketing standpoint. Why? Who knows, but it's from Kazakstan! Be the first on your block, as they say.
Colligo ergo sum
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 Posted 04/29/2014  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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today I picked up a 500 tenge proof finish issue from Kazakhstan


Cool! What were you doing in Kazakhstan?
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Australia
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 Posted 04/29/2014  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder how the Perth Mint bullion 1/2oz silver Great White Shark coin fits in here?

A mintage of 300,000 min buy 25 coins. So if my math is right that is 12,000 buys.

Nice looking shark!
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 Posted 04/29/2014  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yea it seems to me that like the German private mints as an example, really have a leg up and innovate bullion coins that are wildly popular and tend to well despite being just bullion coins,,, if you are looking rare and price appreciation, thats where you start.
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 Posted 04/29/2014  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice thread silver surfer!

Thanks for the direction yup!

Yes there is some very nice looking items.

Now to see what I can do from Aussie.
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