1700's Silver Dollar Sized Silver

Almost forgot. Here's the other one a recently got:)

1726 A Ecu. France. Louis XV.
0.917 Silver, 41mm, Actual Wt. 28.63 grams.
O: Louis XV Bust Left, LUD.XV.D.G.FR.ET.NAV.REX
Rx: Crowned arms of France within sprays, SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTUM
Edge: DOMINE SALVUM FAC REGEM
Mint: Paris

Can't get these pics to load and don't know why. Will take other pics later.
Still can't get the pics to load:(

How so? Because of the number of fakes?
Just thought it might be fun to see a variety of 18th century silver dollar sized coins. I see quite a bit of Spanish coins and Maria Theresa coins here on CCF. BTW, really appreciate all of those threads! Am wondering what other similar sized coins people collect from the same era. For my pocketbook, the high grade stuff is usually out my reach but I have been able to find a couple of lower grades on a budget.

LOL NO! MY collection has a fair proportion of 18th century thalers so it is tempting to put up a heap of photos

Let's see what's in the pocket today...1711 and 1742 rijders with seawater damage, Emden 28 stuivers, and a 1619 daalder. I like the way these coins clank around, and that they're not flat and stackable.

Here are two early 18th century thalers. One I suspect(I don't know) may have an interesting story behind it. The first is a 1741 Maria theresa Thaler struck in Vienna. Maria Theresa's father in 1713 had a treaty ratified by the Germans states:The Pragmatic sanction. That sanction allowed a female heir to inherit the Austrian Habsburg titles etc....but it would not allow such an heiress to become head of Holy Roman Empire as the head of that institution was elected and had to be a man. MT's father, Charles VI, died just before the birth of her son( a few months later) and it would have been her son that inherited! Immediately Prussia, Bavaria, and Poland sought to break up the Austrian Habsburg estate. Frederick the Great of Priussia have some documents supporting his claims to Silesia... ignored the pragmatic sanction and invaded Silesia....this was the beginning of the wars of Austrian succession. Now I think it likely, in the male chauvinistic terms of the time, that no one saw a 23 year old girl and mother to be of any import. What they didn't count on was the temperament and ability of the 23 year old. With her advisers counselling appeasement Maria Theresa dug her toes in. She refused to give in and though there were some loss' she managed to hold on to her fathers estates. This first Thaler marks the start of her highly successful reign what has always intrigued me is the reverse is very much the ancestor of the 1780 Restrike MTT.




This next coin really challenges me photographically. I find it the single most frustrating coin when place in front of the camera. Because of the circumferential toning on the reverse and the brightness of the obverse I can't photograph it true to life( the reverse has heaps of mint luster). That said it is a very intriguing coin. Charles VII of Bavaria had, due to MTs refusal to "bow" to Frederick, become Holy Roman emperor in 1742( Instead of MTs Husband). Maria Theresa would not even acknowledge the existence of Charles VII. Now most of the Thalers' produced 1741 through 1745 were like the 1741 I have posted. However in 1744 and 1745 a few Thalers' were produced with all the Arms appropriate to the Holy Roman Empire. This 1745 example is that type.... I have yet to find out the social-political History of this coin but I suspect it may have been a "political propaganda" thaler. Charles VII died January 1745. Maria Theresa's husband was elected Emperor in September 1745. I suspect this coin has a lot to teach me

Finally got these pics to show up:) I have wanted one of these for a while:) Not the best grade, but I bet it could tell some great stories!

1726 A Ecu. France. Louis XV.
0.917 Silver, 41mm, Actual Wt. 28.63 grams.
O: Louis XV Bust Left, LUD.XV.D.G.FR.ET.NAV.REX
Rx: Crowned arms of France within sprays, SIT NOMEN DOMINI BENEDICTUM
Edge: DOMINE SALVUM FAC REGEM
Mint: Paris

Here is an Emperor's coin. I have this coin as it shows a transition in policies. They had used MInt marks for a good part of the century and in the third quarter of that century they introduced mint signatures, soon after the mint marks slowly disappeared( but not completely and not for ever). This coin is one of a number of varieties that has both. Its a Hall Mint( In Tyrol) Thaler of Joseph II. The obverse has the Hall mint mark "F" and the reverse has the mint signature of A-S. Mint signatures were developed from the initials of the Mint Master( CEO) and Mint Warden(2IC). I have always wondered if the mint signatures were some form of non-monetary compensation.

Since I like error coins, the two coins below refused to let me walk away from them.

My only reason for certification was due to the number of fake coins from this time period.




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France 1701/1694 ECU



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