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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Totally new to this series and I need to grab a few for my Lincoln type set (1913, 1916, 1921, and 1936) I'm looking at this auction and trying to compare it to PCGS photograde and I think my eyes are about to fall out. It's got a really sharp strike but do I see rubs on the high points? Thoughts? I'm really just learning at this point and have no intention of purchasing this coin. I just want to learn the series better before I start pulling triggers, as it were. Thanks in advace! Russ http://www.ebay.com/itm/1916-Buffal...em2ece3d0b16*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm no expert, but I think there is slight wear. AU-58
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Valued Member
United States
69 Posts |
Recently I bought an 1916 example which could be this coins twin, several Buffalo collectors I know called it MS-60 - MS-62. That being said, Buffaloes are hard to grade. Its certainly a nice coin, but priced a little high.
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United States
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I don't see enough rub to drop this nickel to AU. A little roll friction is acceptable for BU grades. But these borderline grades can look different when in hand with different lighting angles than pictured.
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Canada
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I see sight wear also. AU-55.
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United States
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I see what could be rub, but it's awfully tough to tell in a static photo on these coins, especially with the toning. Looks high AU or low MS. I put it at between $35 and $60 FMV from the photos the price it's at ($45) isn't bad at all.
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Australia
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United States
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From the pics I'm going with AU-55 or -58.
I think I see a luster break on the hip.
Strike is weakish too but that's nothing unusual with Buffs.
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Valued Member
United States
498 Posts |
I buy a lot of Buffalos on ebay. Toughest coin of all to grade from a picture no matter how good the picture is. It would have to be 3d. I've bought many that looked great in the picture but generally most of my disappointment with coins in hand come from this series. You can though pick up great deals if you are patient. From my experience the reverse has no split in the tail which generally will keep it in the lower ms grades. IMHO it could be au 58 to ms 62 wait till you start comparing some of the vf key dates slabbed with almost no horn. Really tough unless it's a steal stick to coin shows and local coin in hand deals or male sure they have a 14 day return policy. |
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United States
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We have a coin club function of grading slabbed coins. This past January, I brought 10 different buff's to the meeting. There is a couple SERIOUS buffalo collectors and two dealers. The best....3 out of 10. I counted AU - regardless if the coin was graded 53, 55, or 58. Buffs are TOUGH! The toning does not bother me on this one. Neither does the couple of silver streaks on the obverse. But, there is a couple of scratches on the rim and a Cud on the obverse. As stated, this one could easily go MS62 or AU58. 16's are a little tough on strike - hence the non split tail on this one. |
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This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks so much to everyone for putting their observations here so I can read, look at it again, and learn. Would you all say that even slabbed buffs are easily mistaken?
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United States
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Would you all say that even slabbed buffs are easily mistaken? Sometimes yes. I've purchased high end AU buffs and resold them in the AU holder for MS money occasionally. Some of the early 1920's dates are not always well struck, and certain coins can command a fairly hefty premium above FMV. Example I had a borderline AU/MS 1923-S in an NGC AU55 holder that I was able to get almost MS63 money for, as the strike was so strong, and the dealer that purchased it from me, was putting into his personal collection, he had not seen such a strong strike of that date in many years, so the right coin, can definitely bring strong money, no matter what the grade, as long as it is a problem free, strong strike example and isn't often available in the marketplace. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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