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New Type Of Bait And Switch? - Shipping, Watch Out Snipers!

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 Posted 04/30/2014  12:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I recently found a $20 coin that I have been looking for.

The listing stated 1.20 GBP for shipping to the US. About two hours before the listing ended, the shipping went up to 9 GBP, which is now greater than the value of the coin.

If I would have left my automatic snip in place, I would have been on the hook for about $15 in shipping!

Can a seller change his shipping method like that?
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 Posted 04/30/2014  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post an item number please. They shouldn't have been able to change it with 2 hours left.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Harrison2, interesting?
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 Posted 04/30/2014  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone else seen this? I think I have seen it one other time....or maybe it was just an innocent last mintue change...still, was a bit of a surprise.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought prices(inc shipping) couldn't be changed once a bid had been made
Ok to change if no bids have been made
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 Posted 04/30/2014  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First bid was about an hour and a half before the end of the listing.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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About two hours before the listing ended, the shipping went up to 9 GBP



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First bid was about an hour and a half before the end of the listing.


So the seller was within his rights to change his prices but I do get your point about leaving a sniping bid
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 Posted 04/30/2014  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I find this practice very deceptive.
If I visited the auction page when the shipping is $2, and made high bids (or snipes), estimating my total cost, I would just refuse to pay when the shipping jumped to $15.90.
One expects the bids to increase--but not fixed costs like shipping. In the business world, that's a breach of contract. I'm sure that ebay would have records of the change too.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If I visited the auction page when the shipping is $2, and made high bids (or snipes), estimating my total cost, I would just refuse to pay when the shipping jumped to $15.90.


The seller changed his prices BEFORE any bids were made, I dont see a problem with that.
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 Posted 04/30/2014  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1. Can anyone confirm that what I saw happen is even technically possible?
2. Has anyone else seen this happen?
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 Posted 04/30/2014  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1. Can anyone confirm that what I saw happen is even technically possible?


A seller is quite within his/her rights to change anything in his/her auction including item price, shipping costs, item description as long as

1, No bids have been made on the item
2, more than 2 hrs remain until the end of the auction
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 Posted 05/01/2014  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fusion555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


We all need to read they guys listing

The 1.20 GBP rate is Domestic to UK
The 9 GBP rate is royal mail international with signature
He also has a international rate of 4 GBP royal mail int standard

What you probably saw harrison was ebay detecting you were in Mexico and automatically changing the shipping to international
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The 1.20 GBP rate is Domestic to UK
The 9 GBP rate is royal mail int with signature to USA
Oh man...I take back my rant!
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 Posted 05/01/2014  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fusion555, your statement makes sense, but I can't find those shipping prices listed in the description. I only see risk-levels compared to service levels.

Additionally, by default, I only ship to the US. As I just now tested out changing my location, since both are international destinations per his shipping configuration, the cost doesn't change, still 8 GBP. The only way I can get the shipping down to 1.15 GBP is to change my location to the UK.

Additionally, I specifically remember the shipping price being for "international uninsured."

So, based on my original questions...

1. It is possible to change prices.
2. It would seem this is not a common practice.

In conclusion, either I set my default country to the UK and misread the shipping service provided, or the seller changed his shipping policy on all his listings. (I did check his other listing to see if there was a pattern on other listing that have yet to receive bids.)

All things considered, I don't think he did anything deceptive, it was probably me just misreading the shipping terms. (Though I must say, I am pretty good about not letting that type of thing slip by.)
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I noticed it once and it was a seller from Canada. When I saw the listing(2007 $8 Silver coin)the shipping was $5. When I was going to buy the coin notice the shipping had changed to $15. The seller had different shipping charges for outside of Canada.
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