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Edited by JTSfastguy 05/17/2014 4:43 pm
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It is a Mexican 8 reales struck at the mint at Guanajuato, Mexico. Common date, looks legit at first glance. Not really my field of expertise but I see nothing in the picture that makes the hair on my neck stand up. Nice coin. This type of coin is called a "resplandores" or "cap and ray" coin.
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Yup looks authentic to mee. Looks like a nice example of a circulated 8 Reales Cap and rays.
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A common issue for which nothing jumps out (at least to me) visually as a red flag. However, the 1834 Go was widely forged at the time. Riddell lists ten different known contemporary counterfeits, some of which will not be off much by weight. An accurate determination of its specific gravity would be your best recourse to authentification.
Colligo ergo sum
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I appreciate all your feed back guys ! How much should it weight if authentic ?
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Quote: How much should it weight if authentic ? 27 grams would be the target - it'd be a starting point to know, but that may not be in and of itself a definitive measurement in this particular case.
Colligo ergo sum
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sounds good thank you I just bought a scale to see should be here in a few days
do you know any company's that will authentic type of coins like this ? trying to put a value on it
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JTSfastguy I see very little chance that this one would be one of the counterfeit varieties. However, SG is always advisable. Check the scale accuracy to make sure it is not one of the digital ones with a 2% plus or minus tolerance based on total weight. The dies at this mint were prepared from nearly complete hubs so all that was added to the die after hubbing were minor fine details (like cactus pad spines etc.) and of course the last digit of the date and the assayer's initials. The counterfeit coins made from the stolen dies and or hubs usually have a VERY poor looking small 4 in the date. I own 42 1834 Go 8Rs covering many distinct die varieties and 40 of those are counterfeit. So far I have a high 4, a tilted 4, two double cut 4s and a small slightly low 4 on a badly rusted die. The other counterfeits for the date tend to be a rather typical grouping of debased strikes from fantasy dies like the ones seen in Riddell.
Let us know how the SG comes out.
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Sorry what don't mean by sg? Also I weight the coin on digital scale came out to 26 grams
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Quote: Sorry what don't mean by sg? AlsoI weight the coin on digital scale came out to 26 grams As in 26.0 grams? That'd be a smidgen light. SG = specific gravity. There are several sites on the web that will walk you through the process of mesuring this. But you need a scale with fine enough graduation. Whole grams won't get it done.
Colligo ergo sum
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Lucky Cuss Just wondering what your avatar picture represents? I have two items that are similar but since I love the motif I was just checking if there is another item I should be going after.
The two I know of are first a recently produced bullion round and second a colorized Bakelite token from the 1880s.
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Quote: Lucky Cuss Just wondering what your avatar picture represents? Not any real, actual coin, so far as I know, if I understand the thrust of your question. Just a generalized rendition of the "cap & rays" design I happened to come across, thought it'd represent my interest well enough. I should add that with respect to this genre, I'm very late to the game, but still feel I already know more than 90% of the dealers who dabble in these, but on the other hand only 10% of what I really need to know, and probably only 1% of what you know. My goal is to raise all those percentages as time goes on, without making too many expensive mistakes.
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 05/23/2014 2:39 pm
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Thank you Lucky Cuss - good to know it was a drawing.
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