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Central American Republic Coins And Related 1824 - Abt 1860

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 Posted 10/23/2013  5:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was wondering if anyone collected coins from the Central American Republic or other provisional coins from Honduras, Costa Rica or El Salvador or related coins and proclamation coins from about 1821 through about 1861 or so.

Is your interest:
A sample or two?
A kind of type set?
Detailed?
Perhaps post some images of your coins?

I have included images of an 1844 One Escudo.

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 Posted 10/23/2013  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another coin. An 1824 Half Escudo struck at the Guatemala mint. Weight 1.7 grams. Smaller than a dime.

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 Posted 10/23/2013  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CAR and the related coinages you mentioned are certainly very popular series, as I'm sure you're aware :-> The CAR sunburst is considered among the more iconic coin imagery.

You can't really find an average grade common CAR 8R under $200 these days... and even average circ CAR minors typically bring in the $50 range on ebay. Anything rare or special gradewise typically goes nuts at auction.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of mine. I love this design. 1826 8 Reales

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 Posted 10/24/2013  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of the five 1826 8 Reales in my set I have that reverse die but not the obverse I believe. See the image below for a lower grade matching reverse die.

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 Posted 10/24/2013  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jfransch to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, same die crack. Beautiful coins.
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 Posted 10/29/2013  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the 1830 T F one Real struck in Honduras. It is common and about the size of a nickel.

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I love CAR coins. Have a few of the 8 reales and a small group of high grade/mint state 1/4 reales as well as a 1/2 escudo. My favorite is this Estado de Guatemala provisional issue, never thought I would own one of these but luck was on my side =)

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 Posted 10/30/2013  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jay Kristofferson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1829 provisional is scarce and somewhat expensive. I have seen four or five specimens and so far have identified only one die pair. One of mine was holed and gold plated. (see below)

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Krause has listed 4 known examples for any years now, but that number should be at least 20 and probably there are a good 50 or more out there. I've noticed two different dies. One where the right side near the tree is bulging out, like the coin I posted and your coin in the bottom right, and other that are normal and flat.
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So far as I can determine the bulged die is only a later state of the flat die so only one die pair for these 1892 reals. However I need to study the coins a bit more before I am certain of the previous statement.
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Here are a couple of the scarce 1845 G Quartillas. The second coin shows a die break on the obverse that get progressively worse.

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 Posted 11/11/2013  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Westwood Arms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Jay, in response to your question at the start of this thread, I collect a sample or two. Specialize in Mexico with a weakness for colonial and first reform.

But there are some outstanding central and south American crowns, the foremost being the CAR 8R. Just won a 1837 Peru Cuzco 8R at the Baltimore auction. Looking for a decent Chile volcano peso.

In regards to CAR, does anyone know the history of the outstanding 1/4Rs on the market? Gem 1830s and 40s.

Posting a photo of my CAR 8R and a Guatemala peso. I really like the guns and swords and bird and whatever else is in the design.



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 Posted 11/12/2013  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suppose later die state makes perfect sense, since there are really no other differences, at least to the naked eye.
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 Posted 11/13/2013  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jay, that 2nd 1845 cuartillo is sharp! I assume the die break is the blob between the 1st and 2nd mountains?

Also, is that 5 struck over something?
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 Posted 12/28/2013  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davidrj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Things got very messy in Honduras after the breakup of the Federation,

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they dont come in much better condition than this one
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