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1972 Eisenhower Ike DollarANACS 64 DDO Wiles Dmr-005

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I just won this and I was wondering what exactly it is. It was interesting and I can not necessarily find much information on it.

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EISENHOWER 1972 Variety DDO DIE 2 WILES DMR-5

I looked at the IKEGroup and Ike Double Dies and could not find much so I decided to come here as I know there are IKE experts etc. BTW, those sites are now bookmarked and I have a lot of digging through my Ike's to do.

Can someone tell me a bit more about this? The pictures were not very good but since ANACS graded and certified it I know it is real so I thought why not? I think it will have split serifs etc but I am just not sure. GoogleFoo, ebay searches, and Heritage led me nowhere.

Any help you could provide would be nice. I mean for $27, I thought it would be nice to at least learn about it.


I have found a population of 8 in ANACS. That seems rather rare...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-Eisenh...p=true&rt=nc
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Surprised it don't say what type it is also? Can you tell? 1,2 or 3? I'm not sure about the DDO but I know about the types and that will make a bit of difference in the value
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Can you get a half decent picture of the reverse through that case?
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Here is information from variety vista:
1972 DDO-002
Designation: 2-O-II-C
Description: Light spread on center and lower points of W of WE and upper serif of 1 of date
Obverse is MDS
Reverse is RDV-001 -- MDS
Stage C: Obverse and Reverse are LDS
http://www.varietyvista.com/Variety...es.htm#_1972
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I would think being an ms64 wether it turns out to be a type 1 or a type 3 I would say you did real nice-if it's a type 3 I'd be interested 😬
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Here is information from variety vista:
1972 DDO-002
Designation: 2-O-II-C
Description: Light spread on center and lower points of W of WE and upper serif of 1 of date
Obverse is MDS
Reverse is RDV-001 -- MDS
Stage C: Obverse and Reverse are LDS


Thank you so much.



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Can you get a half decent picture of the reverse through that case?


I just bought it but I will post the reverse picture that I have.

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I would think being an ms64 wether it turns out to be a type 1 or a type 3 I would say you did real nice-if it's a type 3 I'd be interested


Not sure what you mean but I would bet I have to be able to see it to tell the types. The picture is not the best. When I get it I will post better ones.
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Yea thanks,would need to see the earth much better and the moon craters below the eagle to be able to tell-
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The label is confusing. States Die 2
Not sure what that means other that it may be a type 2 reverse.
But coops info states otherwise. Best to just double check the reverse
for a type 2. If so, you have a super coin there just for that fact alone never mind the DDO.
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Ya I hear ya indian-mabi somebody didn't know what they had? I didn't even wanna say because it's a very blurry picture but the moon craters edges looked pretty smooth-can't see the earth at all and didn't wanna get his hopes up but smooth crater edges are the type 2
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At the same time tho the earth edges seem more raised a higher relief than the type 2 has-
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Would like to see a close up of the earth itself. Just curious. A $250.00 to $300.00 coin if type 2.
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Well here is what information ANACS has on it.

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The fact that the population report has this one listed separately than a type 2 leads me to believe it is not one. However it could be what the person who wanted it slabbed to say. I am not sure.


As for the reverse I am trying to get a better picture from the one that I have using software.

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This is a shot but the resolution of the original picture is just not there..

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Here are three links that explain the types and how to tell. I will mark these here so I can find them later.

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http://www.ebay.com/gds/Varieties-o...62361/g.html

http://eisenhowerdollarguide.com/19...r-varieties/

http://www.ebay.com/gds/1972-Type-1...47718/g.html



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The rare Type 2 can be identified by the lack of islands beneath Florida. Incuse water lines appear in their place. The design also shows a lack of detail in the continents.
This reverse which featured a higher relief was used for the 1972-S Proof and Uncirculated Eisenhower dollars. Either by accident or as an experiment, this reverse type was also used to strike some 1972 Eisenhower dollars at the Philadelphia facility. Based on die life, it is estimated that less than 100,000 were produced.
The Type 2 1972 Eisenhower dollar carries a premium even in lower grades due to its rarity. Examples graded MS65 can sell for around $2,000. The few pieces graded MS66 command six figure prices.


Wouldn't that be cool, seeing that tells me that my odds are extremely small. I am getting my Ikes out to look now.
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Ok I have looked through my Ike's. I only had 5 of these, all the rest were Denver's.

I will list them here and see how good I am at seeing which type I have. Well that was easy, they are all type 3 I guess.


Strange thing is these I picked up at a bank when I was very young, around 10 or so. I had 8 of them and I managed to save 4 as my mother spent the others. These are coated or painted to look silver. One one you can see where I scratched it as a kid to see what it was. I was young and knew no better.

The other is just a 72 plain Jane.

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As far as the population report I think this was graded before the 3 different types were even being attributed to the '72's
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As far as the population report I think this was graded before the 3 different types were even being attributed to the '72's



I Sure hope so, it would be a nice score if so but the odds are not in my favor at all.
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