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Identification Ancient Coin 1772

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 Posted 05/27/2014  10:05 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add simone1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello forum
I live in Italy, my name is Simon and I recently inherited a lot of coins.
I'm not a collector but I'm trying to catalog them slowly through the Internet, but on this coin I have really great difficulties could you give me a hand? greetings
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 Posted 05/27/2014  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin is a 1727 Russia 1 ruble, KM#177.
It's supposed to weigh 28.44 grams.

But here's the catch: unfortunately, it does not look genuine. Google this: Russia 1727 1 ruble, KM#177. You'll be able to compare yours to a genuine example.

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05/27/2014 10:38 am
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 Posted 05/27/2014  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add simone1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the reply, the year is 1727 not 1772 coin weight is 14.22g very far from the weight you indicated probabbilmente is some other currency Simone
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Your coin has the appearance and weight of a Poltina or 1/2 Rouble of Imperial Russia. KM # 176.1. If genuine you will find more details on this web site:- http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world. Enter - Russia 1727 and scroll down the list to Russia 1727 Poltina, 1/2 Rouble

Be aware, however, that their are many reproductions of this coin in the marketplace.
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thank you very interesting site, I do not know the authenticity know that in my family for 6 generations. I have a lot of coins sin that I am never interested, but now it seems to me that I am making a nice pastime
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50 kopeks = 1/2 rouble = 1 poltina
1727 СП' (SPB : St Petersburg mint)
To find if it is silver : if you drop the coin from a height of some cm on a stone flore, you should hear a clear sound.
Or you put the coin on the tip of your finger and tap it with something hard plastic, it should also give a clear and bright sound.
Compare with an other silver coin.
Or you can consult a jewelry.
the writing on the coin says :
first picture :
ЕКАТЕРИНА ИМПЕРАТРЕЩА САМО- "ЕР-ИЦА BСЕРОС (всероссийской)(or something) : Catherina I, all-russian autocrate empress
second picture :
МОНЕТА НОBАЯ ЦЕНА ПОЛТИНА : moneta nova poltina : new price money poltina 1727
(PS : next week I am in Rimini)
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Yes, it would be a half ruble.

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To find if it is silver : if you drop the coin from a height of some cm on a stone flore, you should hear a clear sound.

Don't do this - you will damage a possibly valuable coin by doing this. No dropping of a coin on any surface, please.
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 Posted 05/28/2014  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't even bother it's a common modern fake. It's supposed to be poltina KM# 176.2. Here is a genuine one. The difference is obvious. http://www.mcsearch.info/ext_image.html?id=263491
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 Posted 05/28/2014  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The differences are quite obvious.
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The weight is exactly half of the weight of the rouble.
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Here are some more Russian made fakes from the same class as this one: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Coins-World...n=elmash2014
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 Posted 05/28/2014  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add simone1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you very much for the help you are giving me I'll consider for the future classification of the weights and measures of coins
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