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I hope nobody's going to berate me over this, but the alternative to a conservation effort was to consign this coin to being melt, and while it's a common date/mintmark, it seemed to me a bit too good underneath to do that.

As you can see, it evidently had been in a fire, with melted, charred plastic (from a 2x2?) having been deposited on its surfaces. I tried an acetone soak but that proved to have minimal effect, switched to denatured alcohol with better results, but it's still a work in progress after two weeks.

I'm thinking of trying xylene next.

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Colligo ergo sum
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Nice job so far on the conservation
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Those are actually very good results. See the thing is, whenever a newbie comes along we always say never, every under any circumstances clean or alter a coin. There are always exceptions but we keep it at that because some people will think they're the 0.1% who have a coin that should/can be cleaned. Looks like you know what you're doing so I would advise to you to do whatever you think is best while maintaining a certain amount of caution. Good luck!
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Xylene has been mentioned before but I have not seen any posted results.
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I never did get around to trying xylene. I did try methyl ethyl ketone (when I was a much younger man, I worked in a materials r&d lab, so I had some experience with mek as a resin solvent) but it proved as ineffective as acetone had. What did work the best was a gelatinous varnish remover that's a witch's brew of acetone, toluene, methanol, and methylene chloride. The remaining burnt residue still didn't slough off of its own accord, but merely softened and lost adhesion, with recesses particularly having to be gently worked with nothing harder than a fingernail or wooden toothpick. I think this is about as far as I can or care to take this process (I've removed the tiny bit more of final remaining crud since this latest photo was taken). I could dip it, but that'd probably be the step too far. So what do you think? I won't apologize for giving it a whirl, as it's neither uncirculated to begin with nor a rarity - but is the coin "conserved" to any real degree (it didn't turn out pretty by any means) or a waste of time and effort (toss it back into the "melt" pile)? Not that I'm contemplating submitting it for certification, but couldn't it now grade at least VF, maybe even as high as XF (although it has some dings, actual wear is minimal), albeit with a "details" annotation?

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Colligo ergo sum
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I am impressed! Great results!
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