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Singapore
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Canada
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Mexico, 8 reales, 1734.
However, yours looks like it is in suspiciously nice condition. These are the most faked coins in the world so I would start out by doubting that it is real.
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United States
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Details are all wrong, a very crude forgery.
Colligo ergo sum
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United States
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France
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Fake for sure indeed, sorry.
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Korea, Republic Of
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Along with the fake 1908 Indochina piastre and the fake 1799 draped bust dollar, I'd vote fake all the way for this one. Search "Pillar dollar" and you will see that there is a clear difference between the details, overall looks, etc. This one's not even close.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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A very common copy. Sadly, it has no value at all.
Bill
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United States
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Along with the fake 1908 Indochina piastre and the fake 1799 draped bust dollar, I'd vote fake all the way for this one. It would seem that a serious reevaluation of the kenny_n21's sources of and strategy for acquiring collectible coins is in order. Colligo ergo sum
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United States
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"Mexico, 8 reales, 1734. However, yours looks like it is in suspiciously nice condition. These are the most faked coins in the world so I would start out by doubting that it is real." wow, so the most faked? Is it like that with the other types of 8 Reales too? I would really like to have examples of them, but I don't want to get burned by fakes. Speaking of which, I was horrified when I searched for them on Amazon, and I saw them having listings for "replicas" at 4 bucks a piece. Scary, since someone as inexperienced as I with most foriegn coins would have a very hard time telling the difference. |
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United States
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wow, so the most faked? Is it like that with the other types of 8 Reales too? Por desgracia, es cierto. Starting with the Spanish colonial "pillars" type up through the "portrait" style and on into the Mexican Republic "cap and rays", all 8 reales coins have been very widely counterfeited, starting when they were circulating coinage right up into the present day. Many are easily detected. Others not so easily. When you start out with these, the best advice is buy only from trusted and reputble dealers who'll stand behind what they sell. In time, you'll learn to spot the phonies, at least if you have them in hand as opposed to an online image. Colligo ergo sum
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Australia
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there are many previous threads on fake Pieces-of-eight.
Often, SwamperBob contributes his extensive knowledge, and gives tips on identifying fakes.
But the best way to become proficient is to handle as many genuine ones as possible -
easily said, but not so easy to find examples that you might be allowed to handle.
Fakes will often be underweight.
Quote: "These are the most faked coins in the world ..."
- historically, they were faked by the British government, as part of their economic warfare against Napoleon.
Edited by Peter THOMAS
06/12/2014 12:18 am
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Canada
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I confess I don't have a real source for that, but it checks out on at least three counts.
- The 8R was produced and was used as the silver trade coin of the world for centuries, so nearly anyone anywhere could profit by making contemporary counterfeits.
- The 8R is still hotly collected today and is maybe the most posted source of non-American numismatic forgeries here. So fakes for collectors are mass-produced even today.
- The 8R is famous in popular culture as the "piece of eight" and so countless kitschy tourist replicas exist as well.
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