1709 2 Escudos, Gold, Real Or Fake?

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Groszy Pillar of the Community United States 589 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 3:06 pm I have the chance to buy a 1709 2 escudos, raw. Looks real from the pictures provided, but I just want some opinions. Also, if I choose to buy it, in order to properly test it (on-site, since there's an option to refuse the coin if it's not proper), how might I test it there (without a scale, don't have one) other than a magnet? Does gold ring like silver if struck on the side with a dime or something? Got about 4.5 hours to decide whether I want it... Thanks. Report this Post to the Staff

keepcalmandcoinon Pillar of the Community United States 865 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 3:12 pm The roughness and mushy deyails of the coin would make me nervous. I'm no expert on these coins though. Report this Post to the Staff
zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 3:41 pm The coin looks too crude to be real IMO. it' hasn't evenly worn and there is some corrosion consistent with cast copies. Does the weight check out? Report this Post to the Staff
MathieuMa Pillar of the Community France 1591 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 4:14 pm This clearly looks like a cast copy to me. Gold don't get corroded, and details are not visible even in protected areas. It may be made from real gold though - the premium for such coin is so high that it's interesting to make those. Report this Post to the Staff
keepcalmandcoinon Pillar of the Community United States 865 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 5:08 pm Don't buy it. I just looked and I have one very similar that is a cast copy. Same color, same corroded look and everything. It is most definately a fake. Report this Post to the Staff
Groszy Pillar of the Community United States 589 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 6:05 pm I'll pass on it, thanks. Let someone else make the mistake. Hadn't thought of the corrosion-look being anything of importance, thought it was possible salt-water issue. Not worth the risk. Report this Post to the Staff
BillSnyder Pillar of the Community 778 Posts	Posted 05/27/2014 7:37 pm I agree with all. Don't buy it! Report this Post to the Staff
colonialjohn Pillar of the Community United States 1757 Posts	Posted 05/28/2014 1:23 pm You must purchase a coin scale. A micrometer is also recommended. Gold is critical for weight. Is it: 1- Cast 2- Electrotype 2- Pt over Au 3- Au 4- Au over brass (Cu/Zn) or bronze (Cu/sn) 5- Brass (Cu/Zn) Also buying the KM Century Books are critical to confirm weights ... of different coins. Counterfeit gold coins of Pt and Au are worth a good premium ---- John Lorenzo Numismatist United States Report this Post to the Staff
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