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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Not to mention in this case copyright infringement. Chinese, I presume?
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 Posted 05/31/2014  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least the auction is true to its authenticity.
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Well on the bright side a set like that would be great for kids, dosent really matter what kind of abuse they give them plus it could get some kids into collecting the real thing/ plus other NCLT or numismatics etc ,

Its the fakes that people try to pass off as the real thing is the big issue.

That said it does sort of give you that gut feeling of getting the shaft paying so much for the real thing lol.
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Copyrights and patents mean nothing to the chinese. They just do what ever they want.
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Copyrights and patents mean nothing to the chinese. They just do what ever they want.


And anybody who retails their counterfeits abets them.
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American think everything is theirs. OMD
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I'm not sure what your point is. Things afforded the protection of a trademark, copyright, or patent are the property of somebody who has estblished a right to profit from them as the fruits of their labor or thought. Violation of those protections is theft, pure and simple, whether it occurs in the U.S., Canada, or anyplace else in the world.
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Without patent, trademark, copyright protection, the world will have no innovations, Chins has signed onto many patent conventions and the Chinese courts do recognize them as example New Balance shoes sued and shut down a Chinese company by a Chinese court. The RCM simply don't care on this issue yet they sent their crack legal team after a band for using a penny image, misguided use of resources.
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With copyright, no other country is allowed to use gun powder except China, because China first invented gun powder.

So, drop all weapons you have with gun powder inside, especially american, please.
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With copyright, no other country is allowed to use gun powder except China, because China first invented gun powder.

So, drop all weapons you have with gun powder inside, especially american, please.


You're still not making any valid point. First, inventions aren't covered by copyright, they're patented. Second, patents aren't eternal, they expire. And if those two weren't enough, third, modern firearms employ smokeless powder that has no chemical relationship to what the Chinese ever came up with.
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Yeah, it's really FALUBOUS.
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In reality, China is much more serious about patents nowadays, because in next 2-3 years China will beat US to have most yearly spenditure on Reseach and Innovation.

Not only patents, China and US are all changing attitude to Freedom, Demoncracy, of course, in absolutely opposite directions.
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Looks like, that conversation changed it's flow from the coins, art, fakes to some political directions.

The fact is simple, with all the respect to the modern researches and the ability of China, specifically these, and many many other ugly fakes came from China. What to do - people like easy money.

Actually, the people who doesn't like our laws (also about copyright and patents) always free to live somewhere else.

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Hope, no one take my personally.

By myself I like the idea, when the cheap imitation, "beats" the original, in case if original made just to do the money. But from the side of the law enforcement - the falsificators should be punished, or just legalize their production.
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