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Voyageur Dollars In Silver 1972, 2003, 2010

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Enjoyed receiving a 50% Silver 1972 Voyageur Dollar SP64 and a 2003 Proof commemorative Voyageur dollar. Noted the difference in the size of the design as compared to the original, 1966 to compare.

They had to make the design smaller for the 1972 because of the use of beads and thus moved CANADA in and so making the design smaller. The 2003 is inside the beads even more making the design smaller yet. They are all similar size, 36 mm, 36.07 mm, but differing silver content, 800, 500, 9999, and weights. There is another one in 2010 for the 75th anniversary of the Voyageur, could someone post that one? Thanks



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Nice coins, thanks SilverDon.

Before reaching the 1935-2010 Silver Dollar, I bought the 2003 SD (Coronation Edition, like yours in the picture).

And what I do not like on it - it clearly appears on the picture - kind of "flat" relief of the Voyageurs, specifically of the canoe and background. Might be it effect of the Proof frosted finish, while the image has a clear image and not "blends" into background.

While two earlier (circulation) coins have raised relief.

Will take a look at my 2010 SD - I really do not remember the relief, (will post a picture, if no one will do it prior me).
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There is also a second 2003 SD found in coronation sets that has double dates and an old effigy of the Queen on the obverse. The reverse has the voyageur but not date.

I don't have a picture of mine but this one borrowed from Colonial Acres should suffice for now.

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Thanks Silveroid, there is not as much relief in the 2003 commemorative, but the design is highlighted by the frosted proof against mirror finish, not as realistic as the '72 that's for sure. I really like the '72.

Yes CC, I have seen the double date and am ready to snipe that one if I see a deal, I think it is nice with the period effigy, and the design on the reverse looks like it goes to the edge which appears to be denticles by your picture. I like the George V effigy on the 1935-2010 in proof.

Is this right in this set a date on the reverse and two on the obverse, I think they made a new mule.




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No that's not right. The coin in the set doesn't have a date on the reverse. I also looked for the set for quite awhile and picked it up earlier this year on sale from C/A for $79.95. None of the coins have a date on the reverse. Really cool set IMO.

Here are my really amateur pics:

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Thanks CC Ottawa, I knew that ad was wrong, the mirror finish on the reverse of the 2003 is really eye catching with no date, first thing I noticed was the small denticles on the 2003, not beads, almost like the nickel dollars, northern light line going through the C in Canada, nice frosted cameo and double date.

The 2010 has big denticles like the original 1935 and large lettering on the CANADA and DOLLAR, mirror finish on the trees, great George V effigy, really like the proof version of his portrait. I will look for both of these in the future, they are not cheap though, either of them.

Really cool versions of voyageur dollars, thanks for the contributions. Thanks for the close up of the obverse of the George V proof coin. Crazy variations in denticles and beads with many sizes of reverse design and different obverses. Thanks again.


For comparison, here is my 1953 SWL SF Obverse



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Some of the best images ever on Canadian coins. Makes me want to dig out my 1972 to see what it looks like these days.

Great topic.
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Emmanuel Hahn's "Voyageur" design was a classic from the day it was released - attractive, rich in historical context and timeless. I enjoy it every time I see it!

Though clearly not the same, the 1984 Toronto silver dollar recalls Hahn's masterful design with a more modern back drop.

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@CC-Ottawa , SilverDon:

Now I really curious / confused.
I never seen the 2003 set, although I knew about it's existence.

It double dated, but I really doubt, that this is the "Coronation" set, cause the "Coronation" Silver Dollar, is the one, that SilverDon posted at the beginning.

Here is ex-mine (I sold it, cause initially wanted the 1935-2010 and not 2003), and it with packaging and COA, where is appears "Coronation":

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so, IMO, the double-dated 2003 and young Queen looks better, that "Coronation" SD, and both necessary for SD collector.

And mine 2003 was Pure Silver, what is the silver content of 1953 - 2003?
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Thanks CC. Bring on the 1972, we want pictures.
That 1972 is actually the first graded coin I ever purchased. I am ever so happy to have that dollar find its way to my collection.

Just for more comparison, here is my nickel 1972, same denticles size/shape as your 2003. Sorry it is only a scan.



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Yes that's the one I just bought Silveroid with numbered CAO, thanks for the picture of the obverse,
another version of the queen on a voyageur coin, and CC has the other version, double dated.

Here are the specs on CC's 2003 Coronation Coin;

Specifications:
Face Value: $1
Mintage: 21,400
Composition: 99.99% Silver
Weight (g): 25.18
Diameter(mm): 36.07
Edge: Reeded
Finish: Proof
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I am now a convert to the 1984 Commemorative, it is very similar,
even the front of the canoe design, the pose, a great homage to the original
in the heart of Toronto, clean rim, no denticle nor bead.

Was thinking of that coin when I was starting the topic.

Thanks Commems, Nice coin.
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Quote:

It double dated, but I really doubt, that this is the "Coronation" set, cause the "Coronation" Silver Dollar, is the one, that SilverDon posted at the beginning


Even though it was issued in 2003, the COA actually says "1953 Special Edition Coronation Set".
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Here is one for sale though not in the best condition.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/231372917335...keTrack=true



commems, that 1984 is yet another fine example and a great pic. Thanks.


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Quote:
Even though it was issued in 2003, the COA actually says "1953 Special Edition Coronation Set".


Thanks, guys, for your explain.

Looks like the single 2003 silver dollar named "Coronation", and the double dated 1953-2003 SD is only part of the set named "Special Edition Coronation set". And both Dollars different. Good marketing, RCM.

The Toronto SD - beautiful.
Thanks, Commems.
As someone who lives in the Toronto, will prefer to keep the 1984 SD rather 2011 2oz Toronto coin.
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I was thinking the 2011 $20 for $20 Canoe is a take on the voyageur dollar. I don't have access to mine currently, maybe some one will kindly post a pic of one. Any comments on how the 2011 $20 canoe fits in with the Voyaguer theme?
Thanks to this thread, I've a new way to group these coins. It had never occurred to me to do so.
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It definitely has a link to Hahn's original design. Here's part of how the RCM described the coin when it was released:

"This design shows a young person enjoying a recreational outing. The boy breaks from paddling to dip his hand in the water... and touches the past â€" the reflection reveals an early native paddler (or voyageur) in a traditional birch-bark canoe as it also appears on the early silver dollar of 1935."

I think it works well in a "Voyageurs" collection - good thought!

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