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1852 Large Cent No Beads / Edge

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I found this coin in my parents house which is not unusual as my dad was a coin dealer. The coin was in a 2x2 but had no markings. I added the date and type to the holder until looking around for other examples and realized mine does not look the same. The coin is smaller than it should be and has no beading or edge that they normally do. I was trying to find another example on the internet but didn't find one. I'd love to get some information on this. Thanks in advance.

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What is the diameter? Any chance it could be a large cent struck on a Half Cent planchet?
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Add weight to the "what is the" list.

And to CCF.
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And a better image (take it out of the 2x2).
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If it was smaller in diameter I would suspect a copperhead piece.
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If it was smaller in diameter I would suspect a copperhead piece.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is a copperhead piece?
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I have a few of the measurements: Not sure what format is needed but the WT is 7.2g or 0.255oz. The diameter is 29/32 inch which converted to .90625in or 23.01mm roughly.
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The weight is way too much for a Half Cent planchet.
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Here are some new pictures.

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Looks almost like someone filled it down
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Can you get pics of the edge?
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I cannot take a clear picture of the edge, but I believe it has been filed down. It is not rough but there are lines and some gouges on it. Too bad.

Thanks for everyone's help.
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During the Civil War southern sympathizers in the north were known as Copperheads. These people would sometimes organize into groups and one of the methods of recognition between members would be to show a large cent that had been cut down in diameter so that only the head of Liberty would show on the copper, a "copper head". Cutting it down like that would also remove UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the reverse. I have seen a few of these over the years. Most people do not know what they are and they are just sold as mutilated coins.
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During the Civil War southern sympathizers in the north were known as Copperheads. These people would sometimes organize into groups and one of the methods of recognition between members would be to show a large cent that had been cut down in diameter so that only the head of Liberty would show on the copper, a "copper head". Cutting it down like that would also remove UNITED STATES OF AMERICA on the reverse. I have seen a few of these over the years. Most people do not know what they are and they are just sold as mutilated coins.
Very cool. Thanks for the info!
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