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1934-35 Florin

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The top coin is mine , can anyone comment on the bottom coin.

Obverse
1934-35-Florin
1934-35-Florin

Reverse
1934-35-Florin
1934-35-Florin
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 Posted 06/08/2014  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agandau to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say the top one was minted in Melbourne, and the bottom one, in Guangzhou or similar.

The reverse is pretty poor.
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not the same die anyway your one has a star in the badge on the shoulder and one more dot under the maltese cross
botton one top one very nice
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06/08/2014 08:09 am
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2nd obverse-eye and ear off a little but pretty good replication.
2nd reverse-artist must have gotten tired. Poor replication especially on the rider and torch.
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The second one is definitely a fake - the giveaway is the line on the top of the King's regalia on the right hand side of the obverse. In Chinese fakes, they stop just prior to the denticles, whereas in the real version, they extend beyond the denticles and come to a point just before the rim (the point resembles a Phillips head screwdriver under a loupe).
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trout1105 'ole fella:
you are in a position to confirm if the second one is a fake or not.

Weigh it accurately, and do a comparative ring tone test against a known genuine florin of any date up to 1936.

I agree with previous comments. Quite a few fake Melbourne Centenary Florins have come onto the market in recent years. The Australasian Coin & Banknote Magazine published a very good article on them a few years back.

Especially with ancients, I like to maintain a working collection of fake coins. I will happily purchase them, provided that they are knowingly sold that way. It is a good way of knowing what they look like.

Nevertheless the same applies with modern coins, but die detail is an easy way to pick a modern fake, provided you know what you are looking for.

With ancients it has more to do with style, weight, valid types, knowledge of methods of manufacture, and comparison with data bases for confirmed fake ancient coins.

I also have a small but good quality working reference library on fake coins.
It is of great value, if you can maintain good personal contact as friends with some of the most respected specialist numismatist dealers of life time experience, who know what they are talking about. I consider myself to be very fortunate in this regard.
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