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Our Friend With The NNC Slabs (1893-S Morgan)

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 Posted 06/20/2014  9:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ziskindd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
BTW, to any novices, I would not bid on such a rarity not in a reputable TPG slab, but:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-S-MORG...400722467829

For the experts, is this real? what would the value for an obviously cleaned 1893-s be?
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 Posted 06/20/2014  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can tell it appears to be a VAM-2. As for the value, I wouldn't touch it in that piece of plastic.

Dollars to doughnuts it used to be in a problem slab.
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 Posted 06/20/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The denticle alignment with the "1" looks right, but it's a less than a great photo for evaluating a coin like this. It's certainly not "uncirculated" and given that misrepresentation, I'm automatically extremely skeptical otherwise.
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 Posted 06/21/2014  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those are scans, not photos, and as such present no accurate representation of the coin's surfaces. The coin is clearly circulated - the obverse speaks for itself. The discerning Morgan collector will contrast the sharp strike indicated on the reverse by the breast and largest wreath leaves, against the weakness of the talons, top edge of the wings and upper wreath leaves, and see circulation wear.

I find the dark splotches on the (viewer's) left wingtip - contrasted to the too-even finish on the rest of the coin - to be very telling. And I don't like what it's telling me.
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 Posted 06/21/2014  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's obvious that he scans to cover the fact its dipped to some extent and I believe those to be carbon spots on the reverse.

I do not collect morgans but regardless, speaking of rarity and scarcity of the issue and grade, I suggest the potential buyers keep searching for a better example.
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 Posted 06/21/2014  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the coin is probably genuine but has been dipped to death over the years.

It was probably a nice XF/AU coin back in the 1960's and some idiot could not resist sending it through the blue bath of death. Over the years, it just keeps getting redipped by the new owner(s) hoping for that miracle that ain't gonna happen.

Would get a well-deserved "Details" grade at the main stream TPG's. Matter-of-fact, I'd bet they've seen it a few times in the last 15 to 20 years!
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 Posted 06/21/2014  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have an 1893-S Morgan, and you use SCANNED images to sell it. Yep, he's covering up. If you look at his negative feedback, he responds to every one he gets. In most cases he responds like a complete jerk, as if he NEVER does anything wrong. Dealers with god complexes. His positives far outweigh his negatives, but still, his responses would cause me to steer clear of him. The reflection of his attitude speaks volumes to me. But that's just me.
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 Posted 06/21/2014  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did anyone notice the seller is centsles?

That in and of itself should be warning enough to stay away.


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 Posted 06/21/2014  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it's centsles. He's NNC, and there ain't much of a secondary market for his slabs.
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 Posted 06/21/2014  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add usc96 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's the one who seems to always have NNC slabbed 1907 high relief double eagles too. It seems he sells one, then without missing a beat, throws another on on ebay. As if he has a box of NNC slabbed 1907 high relief double eagles waiting to be sold?
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 Posted 06/21/2014  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This marketer is still selling this crap because he is a volume mover and shaker on ebay. ebay lets him skate with a lot of complaints because of the volume he sells.

They won't do anything about him.
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