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Presidential Dollar Proof Sets

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So, I recently got my mint proof set, and I had already purchased one of the pres. proof sets seperately. When looking at the 2007 collection, I noticed that the edge lettering on the pres. dollars is either very faint or not even there. On the business strikes it is relatively bold. I got out the first set I ordered from the mint and they too have the same issue. It's pretty hard to tell when trying to angle the holder just right, but on maybe 2 out of 8 proofs the lettering is pronounced or easily spotted. On the others, I'm thinking there are a few that have no lettering at all, or it's just very very weak.

Plus there's a huge color variation on the edges compared to the obv and rev.

Has anyone noticed this? What am I missing here?
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 Posted 08/08/2007  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't heard anything about weak edge writing on the Presidential dollars. I just ordered my set yesterday, when I receive it, I'll have to look at it and let you know.
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 Posted 08/08/2007  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dustin43160 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
id love to have any presi set but no money gf takes it all
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 Posted 08/08/2007  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baller4Life to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
know wat ya mean dustin lol havent heard anything bout the prezi sets though
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 Posted 08/08/2007  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ordered 2 sets and received them in the mail last week....I have not opened the package yet, but I will when I get home from work.
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 Posted 08/08/2007  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I open mine and noticed that as well. I can't tell if all letter are there Weak or some are missing. or if it is just the way they are packaged. I have not broke them out and don't plan on it. But with that said I do like how the OBV, and REV look as Proofs. I am guess you will see soon if not already proof set for sell with weak lettering.
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 Posted 08/09/2007  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I am guess you will see soon if not already proof set for sell with weak lettering


Now that I wouldn't doubt. I like the looks of them too, but I think the quality control on these was not as good. Since I have two sets now, I may take the worst of the two from a grading standpoint(I don't think any of these would even make 69), and crack one open to get some pictures. Very odd...
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 Posted 08/09/2007  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greyhav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"...Plus there's a huge color variation on the edges compared to the obv and rev..."

I'd asked about this previously and nobody knew. The edges make it look like the circulating coin is clad or plated. I haven't been able to find out what's up.
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yikes people don't buy proof sets. If you didn't know already, over 900,000 pres proof sets have already been sold. Over 500,000 complete proof sets have been sold. This stuff will be worthless 10-100 yrs from now. Making/selling to many. Everyone thinks this 1st yr of pres proof set will rise like the qtrs. Well, everyone is thinking that, including the mint so they are making plenty of this to fill the demand. The Mint is the Biggest Coin Dealer in the world..just one problem...they don't buy it back.
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I'd asked about this previously and nobody knew. The edges make it look like the circulating coin is clad or plated. I haven't been able to find out what's up.

The Sac and President dollars ARE clad. They are a Manganese brass, clad to a pure copper core.
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08/09/2007 10:49 pm
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yikes people don't buy proof sets. If you didn't know already, over 900,000 pres proof sets have already been sold. Over 500,000 complete proof sets have been sold. This stuff will be worthless 10-100 yrs from now


I don't always buy for investment. If I like a coin I buy it.
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08/09/2007 11:24 pm
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 Posted 08/09/2007  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dustin43160 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
same here spder I like the presi prrof because they stand out unlke the regular ones which the are a little dull..
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 Posted 08/10/2007  01:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mine looked weak or missing as well. I buy 2 sets so I can break one out to fill the books up to date so I broke out one that looked weak or missing and they was fine I think it is the plastic they are using that makes the IGWT and date look like it is not there. and they wont be worthless to me as I need the P D and S to have the set complete so why not get them all at once and save money on them.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  02:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea both the sets I have are really weak on the edges compared to the business strikes. I'm guessing they dont strike the rim lettering more than once like they do the obv and rev of the proof coin for a detailed strike.
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The proofs have he lettering put on at the same time as the striking because the lettering is on the collar. So the first strike forces the planchet against the collar and creates the letteing, then the second strike brings up the details more and of course since it is still in the collar the edge lettering would HAVE to be clear and sharp. As Garylcsr found out the lettering that looks weak when you look at it in the holder turns out to actually be strong when you open the holder and you can see it without the intervening plastic.
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 Posted 08/10/2007  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greyhav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Agreed, Spider.

90% of my purchases are because I think the coin is purty, or just plain cool. That's why I'm a coin geek.

Coins aren't really investing, anyway. They're "speculating", which is not the same thing.
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