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Identification Thaler M Theresia 1780

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 Posted 06/29/2014  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep its genuine that edge is unmistakably Günzburg.
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weight helps but you do have to take into account 18th century tolerances were not as good as they are today so the weight can vary around o.1 gram for early re-strikes. As for diameter.....its not that helpful unless the diameter is ridiculously out of sync. The MTT was struck with out a collar...also with screw presses the striking pressure could vary these two factors can see coins(from that era) can varying (40-42 mm)


I acknowledge your points, but from the serious researcher's standpoint, I'd contend it's still worthwhile compiling this data to establish ranges and means for different varieties.
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en43ff, I am sure your two coins are different but I don't know they are in different Hafner's categories or they are varieties of H28.
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2nd coin reverse seems to match hafner 31
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This is a similar variant like others two coin with smalls different like SK and around crown

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Nice example of H 28 very nice edge often the obverse and reverse are Ok and the edge is a mess, but not so yours. Struck in Guenzburg between 1789 and 1792 ( according to the catalog. However based on the shape of the letter "M" and some recent archives discoveries I would extend that range by half a year (1789- mid 1793)
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