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I think that because PCGS is so stingy with PO-1's that this will get an FR-02, perhaps you should use it as a pocket piece for a few more weeks while making sure it doesn't wear out completely.
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I will have to say FR-2. Wait for Nickelsearcher to come along and he should be able to help you.
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There's only one other PCGS PO-01 WLH, and it's owned by a fellow CCF member. It's definitely worth a shot, but I'd carry it around for a while just to wear it down some more.
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Hi Everybody,
Thank you for your opinions. I'm relatively new to the hobby and I find grading the lower grade coins the most challenging.
Please don't think that I'm challenging anybody's opinions, but I would like to know more about 'cleaned' and 'details' grades people have given.
I can see the details coming from the scratches and rim dents. Is this the cause of the details grade? Or is there something else I'm missing?
And for cleaned, I'm mystified on this one, mainly because the coin came from a sack of circulated coins meant for stacking. I'm not sure why a beat old coin like this would have ever been cleaned. And as I write this, I realized that I had put the hold bag in acetone because they were pretty gross when I got them. So its true - its been cleaned but I though acetone was the safe, non-detectable cleaning method.
Anyways, thanks again for your opinions,
Thurmond
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My input .... I'm unable to judge the surfaces for originality through your photographs ... so unsure as to whether or not the coin has been cleaned. IMHO the various rim bruises are consistent with the circulated state of the coin and should not by themselves drive a details grade. As far as PO01 state ... I do not believe this coin would qualify. I believe it is an honest FR02. Your example retains too much of the perimeter legends IMHO to qualify as PO01. Quote:
There's only one other PCGS PO-01 WLH, and it's owned by a fellow CCF member Not trying to hijack your thread .... but compare your coin with the following ... the only PCGS PO01 Walker certified at this time (also a 1918-S).  David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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I don't think this has been cleaned. The clean, white silver look without the dirt is normal for such a low grade coin, that has almost no relief at all for the dirt and the grime to settle. The central area of the reverse under the eagle still retains black grime and dirt because it hasn't worn down to the field. ....and  with FR-02, needs some more wear to qualify for a PO. Edited by Matteproof
07/13/2014 10:10 am
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Looking at the photo of the PO-01, it's awfully close.
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I'm relatively new to the hobby and I find grading the lower grade coins the most challenging.
 to the fun world of collecting honestly circulated low ball coins! I suggest in this case the you compare the reverse legend 'HALF DOLLAR' between your coin and my posted PO01 example ... leads me to the conclusion that your lovely coin is FR02. PCGS has certified over 355,000 Walkers ... with only one at PO01. That is a tough standard to meet. Pleased to help anyway we can to support you efforts in the hobby. David |
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Hi Everybody,
Thanks again for your input.
When I got started on collecting coins, I never imagined that my interest would take this path into ultra low grade coins. I suppose I should have seen it coming, with my father being a silver investor/hoarder so it was natural for me to try to put together a low grade collection of walking liberties, which then lead me to trying to get a PO-1 coin.
Comparing the photo's that Nickelsearcher provided, its clear to me that I need some more wear on my coin to get to PO-1.
And if I was to try to wear my coin down by carrying it around for a while, I feel like I'm purposefully manipulating the grade of the coin. I don't really see the difference (from a logic point of view) between manipulating a coin to increase it's grade (cleaning, dipping, polishing, or any other means) versus purposefully wearing out a coin to decrease it's grade. In either case, the coin is being manipulated and being subjected to processes that weren't natural.
I'll admit that wearing down a coin by carrying it around in one's pocket is pretty close to the natural wear process but its still a form of manipulation by the fact that I'm doing it purposefully to achieve a goal.
On the other hand, I like the idea of carrying this piece with me for a while to observe how it wears as the weeks pass. In fact, it might be a fun experiment to photograph the coin every week to document the wear process.
Enough ramblings, thanks again for your comments,
Thurmond
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