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 Posted 07/16/2014  06:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SilverTracker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am thinking about buying a few raw IHC's from the bay in the next few days but wanted to ask is how can you tell when a chocolate Indian Head has been cleaned?

I mean I know the really obvious ones that are really scratched up and are that new light red color, but the older coins that were cleaned years before show fewer signs because the IHC has aged a bit over the cleaning. Please someone link me to pics so I can get better educated on this.

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Recognizing cleaned coins is somewhat difficult - it is best learn from experience. If you have a coin shop or coin show near you, ask them to see some cleaned coin examples. A good dealer would happy to help educate you. I don't think you'll gain much just looking at pictures.
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As BadThad said, you have to learn. The only way to learn is to look at lots and lots of coins.

It's little things: If the color is 'off' (experience talking again) or uneven. If the field is too clean, the details dirty, but the pattern of the dirt is wrong.

Here is a start. With the next ten well circulated Lincoln cents that come into your hands (i.e. toss out the bright & shinny)... look at them under a glass. Notice where the grime and crud tends to build up and where it doesn't - for example the B & R in LIBERTY tends to catch more than the L or T, but the junctions of the L and T catch a little bit... Look at the field and notice the random scratches and dings from hitting other coins in a pocket. Contrast that to the hairlines in a cleaned coin that go in the same direction.

Now do the same with a handful of IHC that you know are/are not cleaned -- look in the headdress, the wreath, etc.

Also listen to your subconscious - if a coin somehow feels just wrong, it probably is.

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well said BStrauss and BadThad, I don't really have anything to add, except, look at lots of coins, slabbed if possible, spend time on Rick Snows site, http://www.indiancent.com and Penny Lady's Charmy Harker http://www.thepennylady.com to see honest photos of nice IHC coins. Find a good local dealer that can help mentor you if possible.
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 Posted 07/18/2014  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverTracker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent information. Thanks Badthad and Bstrauss.
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