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Thoughts On Old Slab's Grading Vs. New

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 Posted 07/24/2014  04:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a few older, small ANACS slabs. Quite pricey coins within. So I am thinking about crossing them the PCGS.
Mainly concerned about a MS64 DMPL Morgan I own.

So my question is; what is the general thought regarding old grading vs new? Is an older grade more conservative, and would come back a grade higher if crossed?

and that also applies to resubmitting of course. Is the PCGS OGH more conservatiley graded than today's?
I remember reading something about it in here q year ago or so, but can't seem to find it.

Thanks
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 Posted 07/24/2014  06:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherreePicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is the mini holder with the rectangular gold foil hologram on the reverese they were graded circa 1990 ish. Per the grapevine this is when ANACS graded DMPL's conservatively & hard. Most cross to PCGS easily & usually with a bump up in grade.

If it were mine I would leave it in the ANACS holder (if it is the one described above). Those old gold foil hologram holders are getting tough to find. Plus they store easily.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thing is, a cross with a bump up in the grade would give it a $15,000 dollar price (according to numismedia) increase and make it 2nd highest in pop.
But I guess PCGS would be more careful grading it up to a 65 just because of that.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My thinking (I have NO evidence to support this) is that if a coin has NOT been cracked out and resubmitted by now, people better at grading than I have decided the coin WON'T upgrade.

EXCEPTION: You are the original submitter of the coin way back when.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm, that makes sense.
Thanks kanga
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I think most of the older slabs in the market fall into one of 3 categories: not worth submitting for an upgrade, graded correctly by today's standards, and overgraded/has or developed a problem that is not acceptable. As already been mentioned, if it has been off the market for a long time, I think the likelihood of it being undergraded is greater.
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 Posted 07/25/2014  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherreePicker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are still coins in older slabs that were held in collections and then make it to market. Here in sunny FL we have a "small" population of elderly folk who "occasionally" roll in to sell off their collections. Once again it comes down to judging the coin not the holder. There are a lot of raw and slabbed coins still out there that have not seen the light of day for a long time. There is no sarcasm font available so words in quotes indicate sarcasm.
I have several gorgeous DMPL's that I picked up this way & they are in those older small gold label ANACS holders. This may be a geographic anomaly but they are still out there.
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 Posted 07/25/2014  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And without knowing what generation the small ANACS slab is it is impossible to say how "old" it is. ANACS used the small size white slab for problem free coins as recently as 2005 or as far back as 1990.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  06:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My experience is that the old small ANACS slabs grading is very good. I have had 100 percent in them crossing to PCGS, if that is what you want to do.
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 Posted 07/28/2014  06:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of my coins in an old small ANACS holder.
I have owned it for many years, and like it just the way it is.


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 Posted 07/29/2014  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice 1856
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