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Help Identify Coin Found In Grandparents House

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 Posted 07/31/2014  11:15 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pcardina to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was cleaning my grandfathers house and found a jar of old coins. Among them was the one in the pictures. If anyone has any idea what it is i'd appreciate it.

http://imgur.com/a/OIcz9

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 Posted 07/31/2014  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see a date or lettering


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 Posted 07/31/2014  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nominally, it looks like a cob gold doubloon, but a lot of investigation would be needed to confirm the authenticy.

First question:
What is the weight?
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 Posted 08/01/2014  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The closest I have to that coin is a silver cob
(from the ship wreck Concepcion 1641)


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 Posted 08/01/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be wary of a fake here--looks like generic "pirate treasure" to me. If you can verify it's silver or gold, that's a step in the right direction--tourist items are usually colored or painted base metal. Did he have any other valuable coins in his collection? If not, this was probably something he picked up at a beach shop at some point.
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I rather think it might be French (or one of the French states):
Center shield with 3 fleur de lis an the other side also fleur de lis
(Louis XII?)
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 Posted 08/01/2014  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pcardina to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking closer at the coin after reading your comments it does look like on the cross side there are the fleur de lis and on the shield side there are more fleur de lis and what looks like a VIII on the right edge.
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What size and weight is it please.
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 Posted 08/01/2014  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like this - whether it's real or not I do not know

Mexico. "Royal" 8 Escudos, 1714-Mo-J. Fr --; cf. KM World Coins, 1700-1800, p. 753; Grove 888. 26.94 grams Philip V, 1700-1746. Crowned arms, value of VIII in field. Reverse: Cross within quadrilobe, angled scepters. Trivial planchet flaw below date, otherwise remarkable centering and strike. Excessively rare.

About 1/3rd of the way down on this page

http://sunkentreasure.com/gbroyal.htm
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 Posted 08/01/2014  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rooneydog: you are very correct!
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 Posted 08/02/2014  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pcardina to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to thank everyone for the effort you put forth here that is pretty great how fast you guys got me that information with those two pictres.

A bit more detail in the next step of finding out if this thing is real or just somthing he picked up in his life as a novelty. The view from the side looks like to thin coins that were somehow made one(solder?) see picture. If I incorrect on this what would be my next step on getting an idea of this thing is a replica or not?

Thank you.

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The line along the middle looks to be a casting seam - the originals didn't have one of those.
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I finally found this one on the "Fake Cobs Database!" Scroll down to FC#53645, "Mexico 8 escudos (1714-1715)." The match is identical.
http://www.sedwickcoins.com/fake_cobs.htm
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08/02/2014 09:21 am
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