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Old Time ANACS Cert

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Before they put them in plastic holders.

Post yours if you have them.


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Wow, looks like there aren't very many of these old ANACS certs out there! I just posted my only one on the Classic Coins Grading thread:

https://goccf.com/t/184593#184593

Mine is not quite as old as yours, but looks like the same basic format. I wonder if this ever ran across the minds of the graders during this era: "Hmm, if only there was a way to encapsulate the coin after I grade it so as to guarantee that it remains in this condition as long as it stays encapsulated..."



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Quote:
(David Hall of PCGS takes a bow)

Why? Alan Hagar introduced the slabbing concept for coins two years before PCGS began. (Hagar claims PCGS licensed the slabbing concept from Accugrade, PCGS denies this. Of course PCGS has also claimed they invented slabbing.) And as far as I can determine the first company to grade and encapsulate coins in hard plastic holders was a South African firm in 1975. So slabs predate PCGS by a decade. (And that doesn't even count the GSA "graded" dollars in 1972.)
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Very interesting and informative, Conder101!

Well then, in light of this new information ... David Hall would still take a bow, as much as Edison would take a bow for "inventing" the lightbulb, or maybe Al Gore for "inventing" the internet.
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Edison perfected the filament of the light bulb - he NEVER claimed otherwise.
The Gore crack belongs in Omni.

As for sealed coin holders, there are patents back to the turn of the 20th century. As just an example: the "capital plastics" style: http://www.google.com/patents/US3199666 (1962) which is cited by PCGS in their 1991 patent. And '666 cites https://www.google.com/patents/US2457998 which looks a lot like a cointain from 1949!
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PCGS loves to self-proclaim- much more than the other guys. They sure know how to ride that "perception" thing.
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Sorry, didn't mean to upset anyone ... I'm certainly no expert on TPG, just going by what someone told Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_grading

When will I learn that you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs?

I retract my statements about Mr. Hall, Mr. Edison and Mr. Gore!
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No big deal. Anyway, since Condor101 hasn't jumped in on the OP...

ANACS photo certs with #s (the flip is covering it, but the look & time is right) from E-0000-A onwards come from when ANACS moved from Washington DC to Colorado Springs, CO. ANACS started authenticating (not grading) coins in the early 70s, grading (and the photo certificates) were added in the '78 timeframe.

Probably the best write-up on early ANACS that I have found is Robert J. Paul's article. Go do a Google search for "anacs photo certificates" and the 1st link is the pdf hosted at SampleSlabs (for some reason it won't let me put that link here)
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Here is a new purchase for my ANACS Photo Certs

And I do have all of the coins with these photo certs. Just no camara.

Old-Time-ANACS-Cert

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